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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
Tailpipe, the sales of RRS have done no harm to the sales of RR, many of the people on this forum have never owned a Land Rover product before and are conquest sales from BMW, Porsche and VW. The Range Rover is seen as a status symbol and due to the poor reputation of the P38A version, although a popular car, the Range Rover did not really appeal to the owners of powerful sports saloons, it appealed to mainly existing RR owners. Sport however has proved to be a winner because it is the right size and has appealed to a much younger age group than RR. I came to RRS from an RR and have not regretted it for one moment, but I have neighbours who had owned many Range Rovers over the years from the original right through to the Mk3/L322 and while mightily impresssed with Sport decided that they wanted the more limo like RR rather than the smaller more firmly sprung Sport.
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Sat Mar 25 2006 4:51pm |
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Rob_J Member Since: 02 Nov 2005 Location: Usually flat out on the sofa with glass of vino Posts: 218 |
I'm with Tim here. The Range Rover & RRS are after 2 different markets. Personally i wouldn't touch the Range Rover. It's just too big. To me the RRS meets all my requirements except performance. I think the RRS need to distance itself further from it's bigger brother. It need to lose a little weight & gain some BHP. it looks great & obviously has great off-road performance. For me it was a toss up between the Cayenne S & the RRS, in the end I compromised the performance for the looks. If Porsche improved the Cayenne's looks, much as I think the RRS is great I may go there next time without a bit more grunt from the RRS HSE TD6 (Java Black/Ivory)
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Sat Mar 25 2006 5:40pm |
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Tailpipe Member Since: 10 Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 12 |
Hi Tim,
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Sat Mar 25 2006 9:45pm |
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SN Member Since: 17 Mar 2006 Location: Romiley Posts: 89 |
There's a simple solution to the problem - stick the RRS Grill and Badge on the HSE D3 - problem over! I don't know how anyone can say the higher spec D3's are not in the same market as the RRS Steve N | 21MY Defender (on order) | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history) |
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Sat Mar 25 2006 10:01pm |
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chex Member Since: 06 Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 210 |
I think you answered your own question there.
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Sat Mar 25 2006 10:04pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
However much offroad ablity do you want in a Range Rover. I think I'm probably one of the few people who actually took my L322RR offroad, other than the LRE Centres and I took it to places where my Defender would get stuck purely because it doesn't have the sophoisticated electronics............. I agree that the weight is a handicap, but even on road tyres the RR is very impressive offroad. My Sport has yet to have the deep mud treatment my RRL322 had...................... it's day will come! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced 2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW |
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Sat Mar 25 2006 10:12pm |
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Pelyma Member Since: 28 Sep 2005 Location: Sussex Posts: 1497 |
My friend takes her RR vogue offroad very regularly and it is excellent. The chief of Lancashire Police did too at the last Waterloo cup and stuffed it in a dyke
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Sun Mar 26 2006 2:30pm |
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Supertrotter Member Since: 10 Mar 2006 Location: Brrrr.... guess where :o( Posts: 9905 |
Bet that made her eyes water Runner up - 2009 Best Avatar Award Joint runner up - 2009 Outstanding Contribution Award WINNER - 2008 ‘Best Thread’ Award – Beautiful Women Of The World Runner Up - 2008 Comedian Of The Year Award Runner Up - 2008’s Funniest Incident 06 RRS TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony, PTI, Running Boards, Privacy, S/C Grille/Vents, Stormers, Tasmods - GONE - ( |
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Mon Mar 27 2006 9:04am |
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TB Member Since: 19 Feb 2006 Location: Depends who wants to know . . . Posts: 5927 |
Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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Tue Mar 28 2006 3:25pm |
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Tailpipe Member Since: 10 Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 12 |
A recent chat with a guy from within Ford inspired the poll I posted. I have also synthesised other recent comments gleaned from various insiders, including LR people, various media stories and my own professional market knowledge. The following description of the next Range Rover is probably about 95% correct. Here goes:
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Tue Mar 28 2006 5:47pm |
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RRUK Member Since: 10 Jun 2005 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2581 |
You have to be kidding...economical? I will eat my hat when either of these two cars can be called economical. Plus, there is no difference really between the two, both models in similar engines perform about the same, they weigh about the same too. Let's not kid ourselves, these are afterall Landrover vehicles, never a brand to follow the pack and use high powered more economical diesel engines, such as BMW, Audi, Mercedes, et al. L319 D4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB |
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Tue Mar 28 2006 5:52pm |
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chex Member Since: 06 Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 210 |
nobody said economical
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Tue Mar 28 2006 6:29pm |
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Supertrotter Member Since: 10 Mar 2006 Location: Brrrr.... guess where :o( Posts: 9905 |
How apt. Freelander and Focus in the same sentence. Shame you couldn't crowbar S40, V40 and Mazda3 in as well! Runner up - 2009 Best Avatar Award Joint runner up - 2009 Outstanding Contribution Award WINNER - 2008 ‘Best Thread’ Award – Beautiful Women Of The World Runner Up - 2008 Comedian Of The Year Award Runner Up - 2008’s Funniest Incident 06 RRS TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony, PTI, Running Boards, Privacy, S/C Grille/Vents, Stormers, Tasmods - GONE - ( |
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Tue Mar 28 2006 8:31pm |
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Andrew Member Since: 16 Jun 2005 Location: Cheltenham Posts: 248 |
What we need them to make is an RRS based model, that has 2 doors, about two feet shorter, ride around on lower, firmer, suspension with the dynamic response stiffened up aswell and put the Aston Vanquish supercharged V12 in it. If we have to pay that extra £40 tax, might aswell make it worthwhile.
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Tue Mar 28 2006 8:34pm |
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