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bt11



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MWAY BREAKDOWN

So I’m travelling along at a steady 130mph.... Laughing No, more like 85mph when all hell breaks loose on the RRS

ENGINE MANAGMENT light comes on followed by
TRANSMISSION FAULT LIMITED GEARS AVAILABLE
HDC FAULT SUSPENSION LOWERING
PARKING BRAKE FAULT

Car quickly loses all power then goes into access mode.. luckily M6 was pretty quiet so got her over onto the hard shoulder.. Turned engine off thought F**K what is that and turned her back on... started a little gingerly but non the less started. Anyway management system allowed me in low gears only and managed to get to a safe place and call LR assist who said it is prob my fuel filter..

Cut a long story short... got her to the Stealer and said its the Fuel filter.. On closer inspection turned out i had the “old” filter fitted (mine is an 07 2008MY TDV8) so swapped with the new type (got it free as it should have been fitted as standard on my model/year)

Once fitted they bleeded out the fuel system, then... car wouldn’t start... ends up i also had a faulty fuel pump so this was also replace FOC..

All sorted now but dread to think of the situation had it happened on a Friday evening in traffic Neutral Range Rover Sport TDV8 OVERFINCH ECU remap/tuned, 22" Satin Black Tigers, Black/Black, sideskirts, tints, clear ind, 09 upgrades +++

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OhOh, i might have this to look forward to then............................ mines a 2007 built 2008MY, one of the last before 2008.5MY I believe. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Any idea what VIN range was affected by this?

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TB



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Hang on, lets not press the panic button just yet. This is a one off incident as far as we know.

I'm sure Bobby will be along soon. If Land Rover have issued a TSB on this fault I'm sure he will know about it. Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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1 car in how many.......chill winston...... Speed Limits! not where I live!

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One in about 400,000 so far. . . Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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bt11



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From what i can remember... the senior engineer said that the older filter has 2 particle filter sets within the unit itself.. the new one has 5 so far more filtration.. This he said is due to the amont of bio fuel being mixed with everyday diesel now

I only buy from BP but still had a problem Neutral

I'm also not the first to have this problem!!!!

skibum wrote:
Had these error messages come up all at same time:-

TRANSMISSION FAULT LIMITED GEARS AVAILABLE
HDC FAULT SUSPENSION LOWERING


This was while travelling at m-way speeds (90ish). The vehicle slows down to 30. I pull over onto hard shoulder, then switch off. Restart and everything ok. But this has happened 6 times in two weeks now.

Car in to stealers today, they tell me its a blocked fuel filter and is common on cars with 28K ish miles. Cos its a fuel filter its non-warranty and will cost c£100

Anyone else have this problem???

(On the plus side just signed up for THIRD FOC LR experience today).

Cheers chaps
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Steve in germany



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Bio fuel being mixed with diesel Question I would be very surprised Speed Limits! not where I live!

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Did Have: Disco3 HSE

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This has been posted before Steve.

Sure someone mentioned that ALLEGEDLY Morrisons diesel has some Bio mixed in.

I hasten to add this is ALLEGEDLY and in no way indicates the above as factual!

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When I was in the Army part of the job that I did was the testing of fuel, ground, aviation and naval. Basically I had a mobile lab and would go to where ever to test the quality and grade. As you can imagine, when overseas the 3 services purchase the fuel localy, in places like Bosnia, Kosovo, etc etc, the quality is not quite what you would expect from your local supermarket. What I'm getting at and you may have seen yourself from time to time, is that forecourt testing of fuel is done on a regular basis, not just to calibrate the pumps. The major players would never risk the wrath of HM inspector of.......and so on, not to mention the bad press and all that. Speed Limits! not where I live!

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I remember reading in one of the motoring mags that after July 2008 all diesel in the UK was going to be routinely mixed with Biodiesel, but the percentage would be very small - <5%. I think the percent might even be higher sur le Continent. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
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Yes your right Tim, many countries have wanted to blend 5%, this is the maximum figure that they believe they can use without needing to modify the manufactures engines. The reason for blending, well its like watering it down basically, all down to money and profit. The biggest problem though is the manufactures are having none of it, by saying you will void your warrenty by running the vehicle on anything but the reconmended fuel. Speed Limits! not where I live!

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Did Have: Disco3 HSE

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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I remember reading in one of the motoring mags that after July 2008 all diesel in the UK was going to be routinely mixed with Biodiesel, but the percentage would be very small - <5%. I think the percent might even be higher sur le Continent.


Hi @all,
very short to all the guys who didn't read my entry post: I'm new and want to buy a RRS soon. I have been reading here for a little while now (great forum btw Thumbs Up ) but nevertheless I know nothing about the RRS yet, that's why I didn't post anything (besides the first posting mentioned above, of course Wink ).

BUT since I have been working as a consultant for a company that was directly affected to Biodiesel and the laws among it, I know a little bit about that so I can just answer this little point:
Whithin the whole EU this should be 5% by now (at least that's what the EU said some years ago) but I'm not quite sure if this is still actual and if each country really sticks to it already.
The Biodiesel-percentage in Germany is exactly 5% due to a German law (in fact it must be a minimum of 5% but since it must be German Biodiesel due to some perfect lobby work and since German Biodiesel meanwhile is more expensive in production than mineral diesel including tax it will be exactly those 5%). It was said to be raised up to 8% and then 10% but German car manufacturers said this would be harm some of the engines and so the percentage is still 5%.



Two words to Biodiesel and modern engines:

The main problem with Biodiesel is that it is sometimes (especially in summer) made from cheap raw materials and with very little additives since they are veeery expensive and then it can become marshy when it is not moved for some time (or when it is to cold or it becomes marshy without any special reason, it just does) which can of course seriously damage your engine.
This is the main problem with Biodiesel (and it is a huge problem, I saw masses of damaged engines due to cheap Biodiesel). All the nonsense about it being to aggressive or to destroy seals or something similar are just propaganda of some well-paid lobbyists.

In winter time however the Biodiesel is a lot better (because the cheap one would just jell in cold temperatures) and therefore should not harm your engine. (I know people who just bought the winter stuff and used this over the whole year, they did not have a single fault on their engines over more than a hundred thousand miles run on pure Biodiesel although they drive modern Audis and Beamers which due to the car makers can't be run on Biodiesel! But if you don't have your own filling station this information won't help you anything, sorry. Laughing )


Just my 5 cents, in fact very long 5 cents. But it's the first time I know something so of course I wanted to tell you... Wink Rolling with laughter

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Tim in Scotland



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McBunny, first welcome to the forums.
Second - if what you call "marshing" ( I think it might be what we call "waxing" ) is a problem then would one way of reducing the likelihood of this occurring be to add one of the Cetane enhancing concoctions that are available from auto stores? These are often sold as injector cleaners - things like Millers or Reddex 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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McBunny



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Hi Tim,

thanks for the welcome.

Er, sorry, waxing. Thanks. Yes, that's my great english... Embarassed

Due to the fact I'm more a specialist for the business itself than for the product the business is made with I can't really tell you if it would help, sorry. So everything that followes is just me guessing: But since I know what the additives used in production cost I can not imagine that those "cheap" things you can buy in the filling stations will be near as good. By the way: Once it has "become wax" the manufacturers throw it away, there seems to be no (payable) possibility to get it fluid again.

But all that information is only about driving on pure 100% Biodiesel! If you have 5% of Biodiesel in good mineral fuel even the cheapest Biodiesel should do. (If not it may have been your car that caused the fault! Wink )

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