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| MDP Member Since: 14 Jun 2005 Location: Back in an AUDI Posts: 8598  
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Good morning mpwox11
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Tue Mar 14 2006 9:34am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 
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Byron, it only takes one car in the hold of a ro-ro car carrier to break loose in bad weather and all the cars round it get battered but they don't all slide downhill to the low side and sink the ship............. trust me I've seen what happens when 1 or 2 of the 4 lashing straps that hold a car down inside a car carrier break and it is very localised and not a nice sight These lashings are pretty strong but just occassionally they do part. Often it is the securing eye built onto the vehicle that fails and not the strop or chain used to secure the car. 3 years ago there was a well known inicident in the Approaches to Antwerp/ River Scheldte when the "Tricolor" was hit by another ship and sank. One of the problems the salvors had was that many of the high end Volvos (mainly about to be launched XC90's), Saabs and BMWs were found still to be secured to the decks by their lashings and the ship had rolled over 90degrees which made removing the cars very difficult and dangerous 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced 2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 9:38am |
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| Very Annoyed Site Moderator Member Since: 23 Aug 2005 Location: bat-wielding monkey-spanking tough-love zero-tolerance Euro-sceptic moderator - So just watch it! Posts: 19459
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Didn't they cut the ship into pieces using the industrial equivalent of a cheese wire? I remeber seeing a cross section of the hull and all the cars inside sliced into 2. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Tue Mar 14 2006 9:47am |
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| Josh Member Since: 24 Dec 2005 Location: Here, there and everywhere Posts: 2054
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Looks like a high speed roll, off road, probably downhill on a sand dune. As I understand speed on sand is the way to do it.
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Tue Mar 14 2006 9:50am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476
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Yes VA, they did and cut it into 4000t sections to remove it in bits on barges. Believe it or not during recovery ops 4 ships ran into the wreck despite there being a huge floodlight barge and 2 monster floating cranes as well as myriad radar transponder equipped buoys and the coastguards in the UK and France asking every ship that went through the region if they were aware of the wreck and to keep clear! Every body I heard respond answered yes...... so you wonder how so many ships ran into it! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Tue Mar 14 2006 9:52am |
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| BoldlyGo Member Since: 13 Jan 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 216
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Very good point Josh, making me feel slightly better about this subject. I guess u don't see many manufacturers testing (in the case of the black one) a car flying off a road at >70mph and flipping over several times- looked like roof 1st to me, or as in this case what a dune bugging rrs traveling at possibly supercharged speed does when it flies into a dune - 1st time i've seen a bonnet origamied  !.
I guess we'd never buy a car if we saw the worst wreck of every brand. P400e HSE Portofino Blue and Ivory Seats.. it's like a yacht!! Lexus traded in ..a total piece of crap Boldly now acquired - a Lexus RX 450hL BoldlyGone...Sep 15 MY16 RRS SDV6, HSE, Barolo Black, Espresso/Almond interior.. Best car ever & Drop dead gorgeous... sadly with fuel dilution headaches that became intolerable Arrived 2014. Oct - Lemoned March 2015- RRS SDV6 HSE Boldly Gone = Sold for 14k via Pistonheads - 2006 TDV6 SE Buck Blue/Almond int |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 10:43am |
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| Very Annoyed Site Moderator Member Since: 23 Aug 2005 Location: bat-wielding monkey-spanking tough-love zero-tolerance Euro-sceptic moderator - So just watch it! Posts: 19459
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Were you one of them Tim!  Seriously I remember all thses muppets hitting it and I couldn't believe it. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
2009 Alaska TDV8 - Gone and much missed. 
WINNER - 2009 �Idler Of The Year� Award Runner Up - 2009 �Just Doing What It�s Designed To Do� Award DO NOT CLICK HERE! |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 10:46am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476
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VA, the ships that I sail on are so big that and fast and create a large wash at speed that we were requested to slow down to below 28knots when going passed so the wash didn't cause problems for the barges and divers. The furthest off the wreck we could pass was 2 miles............... due to traffic lane width restrictions. BTW a "narrow" lane for us is something less than 2 miles wide and not less than 20m deep! |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:25am |
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| shmoogle Member Since: 07 Sep 2005 Location: ... and for every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you! Posts: 24350
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Just think if the lanes on the M25 were that big... it'd still be a carpark at 8am!! |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:27am |
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| Very Annoyed Site Moderator Member Since: 23 Aug 2005 Location: bat-wielding monkey-spanking tough-love zero-tolerance Euro-sceptic moderator - So just watch it! Posts: 19459
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I rember sailing across the Channel in my younger days and it gets a bit hairy crossing the shipping lanes. Sail over steam my arse! You guys get very close very quickly! 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten 2009 Alaska TDV8 - Gone and much missed.
WINNER - 2009 �Idler Of The Year� Award Runner Up - 2009 �Just Doing What It�s Designed To Do� Award DO NOT CLICK HERE! |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:29am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476
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VA - you trying to get me rattled or what? I'm on holiday so don't get me started about sail's right of way over steam (it isn't true all the time BTW!).
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:51am |
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out of the way he still wouldn't budge. To get round the bends at Calshot I have to pass Cowes at 23 knots then stop the engine and let the momentum carry the ship round the bends. We cannot stop easily once we are committed to that route! Best moto when in the Channel is if you can see a ship, work on the fact that they probably haven't seen you as you are such a tiny spec on the ocean, and you keep out of their way. The boat owner above was procecuted and fined heavily for endangering safety of life at sea - not only did he risk the lives of the crew of his own boat but the 18 people on my ship.| kam100 Member Since: 28 Sep 2005 Location: In my office doing quotes!! Posts: 4771
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Surely.. If you're bigger, then you have the right of way?
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:55am |
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| Very Annoyed Site Moderator Member Since: 23 Aug 2005 Location: bat-wielding monkey-spanking tough-love zero-tolerance Euro-sceptic moderator - So just watch it! Posts: 19459
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Tim don't get me wrong I am fully aware the difficulties that your ships have. I NEVER live by the sail over steam motto - I just get the hell out of the way! 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:57am |
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| shmoogle Member Since: 07 Sep 2005 Location: ... and for every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you! Posts: 24350
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I remember watching a Keith Floyd programme once years ago on telly where he was in India I think it was and was being transported from A to B on one of those little motorised tuk-tuk things through the mad traffic. Looked like one of the scariest journeys you'd ever take and open to the air as well... And I thought it was bad circumnavigating the Place de la Concorde in Paris in the secure confines of a car! |
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Tue Mar 14 2006 11:58am |
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