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Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Variations on the LR-X theme

LRX in black with silver roof and Max Power wheels...........................

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Sun Mar 02 2008 11:07am

thebishman

Member Since: 21 Dec 2005
Location: Kansas, USA
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2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Bonatti Grey

Re: Variations on the LR-X theme

Tim in Scotland wrote:
LRX in black with silver roof and Max Power wheels...........................

Link stolen with no apologies from D3
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/...ts/231578/

LR really must make the LRX: it will sell like hot-cakes imho.

A turbo-diesel/hybrid model here in the States would pretty much take all of the first year's production I bet: I know I'd get one.

Bish '06 RRS S/C Bonatti Grey/Ebony/Cherry with RSE; PTI; Electronic Rear Diff and Sirius Sat Radio.

Sun Mar 02 2008 1:55pm

TB

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2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Arctic Frost

You still need to convince the "Land Rover Powers That Be", selling a diesel engined Land Rover in the US of A is a good idea. Something they have always avoided up until now.

Even when the US dealers were screaming out for the TD4 engined Freelander One, the bosses at Land Rover turned a deaf ear. Poor fuel economy on the V6 petrol engined Freelander was one of the main reasons it failed to impress in the American market. Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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Sun Mar 02 2008 2:10pm

Tim in Scotland

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Big problem is that with the exception of California (which has it's own idea of how low, ultra low sulpher content should be) the diesel in the rest of the States is the good old full strength Sulpher fuel and most hitech Eurodiesels cannot run on it. I believe Biodiesel is becoming more common stateside but diesel engines are still more closely associated with Mack's and semi's than with cars.
We are also having this problem with the ship - from March we will be trading to the West Coast of the US and have to have a special even lower amount of sulpher than Europe requires just to call in Long Beach. Problem is that it cannot be purchased outside California......................................... so how do you arrive 25 miles off the Ca coast and change over to it from dirty filthy full strength so that you are burning the low sulpher when you arrive on the first call if you cannot buy anywhere else in the world - Arnie's logic never fails to impress! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Sun Mar 02 2008 4:06pm

thebishman

Member Since: 21 Dec 2005
Location: Kansas, USA
Posts: 98

Tim in Scotland wrote:
Big problem is that with the exception of California (which has it's own idea of how low, ultra low sulpher content should be) the diesel in the rest of the States is the good old full strength Sulpher fuel and most hitech Eurodiesels cannot run on it. I believe Biodiesel is becoming more common stateside but diesel engines are still more closely associated with Mack's and semi's than with cars.
We are also having this problem with the ship - from March we will be trading to the West Coast of the US and have to have a special even lower amount of sulpher than Europe requires just to call in Long Beach. Problem is that it cannot be purchased outside California......................................... so how do you arrive 25 miles off the Ca coast and change over to it from dirty filthy full strength so that you are burning the low sulpher when you arrive on the first call if you cannot buy anywhere else in the world - Arnie's logic never fails to impress!

Tim,

From the auto standpoint this is no longer the case. ALL auto diesel is now low sulphur here in the USA in all states. It is 15 ppm if I remember correctly, which is still slightly higher than the 6 ppm you have in the EU, BUT the turbo-diesels that you all have been driving for quite a few years now will run perfectly well on it.

There are 2 issues that have held up the progress of modern diesels here: 1, is that until relatively recently, we were paying about 1/3-1/2 what you pay in the UK for a gallon of petrol. Hence there was very little incentive to spend the money both on the manufacturers part to develop diesels for the US market, and on the behalf of the consumer to buy one, even when most SUVs, Pick-ups here etc. are lucky to average 15 mpg. The onset of $3.50 and probably $4.00 soon per US gallon of petrol has made diesels look very attractive however due to their getting about 33.3% better fuel economy, and of course 2, the fact that low sulphur fuel has only relatively recently become available nationwide.

One last thing has slowed things down further and that is the US emissions requirements require lower emissions of particulates, hence the manufacturers have had to devise ways to decrease those; e.g. Mercedes/VW 'Blue-tec' diesels, etc. which I think you'll be seeing in the EU soon.

As for making you burn low sulphur oil when in US waters, I believe you'll see that spread nationwide eventually. Have you seen the crap that comes out of your smoke stack? lol

Bish '06 RRS S/C Bonatti Grey/Ebony/Cherry with RSE; PTI; Electronic Rear Diff and Sirius Sat Radio.

Sun Mar 02 2008 9:04pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
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Oh yes I know what comes out of the stack on my ship............................. which is why I'm not too concerned about what comes out of the two tail pipes of my RRS! Because in the life time of my car it will never produce the amount of yuck that comes out of the ship's stack in one DAY at full power. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Sun Mar 02 2008 10:21pm

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