Well, I had the chance to test my RRS in the snow for the 1st time this week. I was travelling back from Elgin to my home near Banchory and as the weather was so horrible I "of course" decided to forget the main roads and take the route over the mountains (Well, you've got to, haven't you)! Anyway, as I got to the highest point on the Cabrach Road It was pitch black & blowing a blizzard. The road had filled in with snow and there wasn't a tyre track in it, except for the ones being left behind me! I started to push the car in the bends and it did start to lose traction (as expected), So I popped it in to neutral and changed in to the Snow Setting - WOW, the dynamic of the car changed completely and although it felt that it was less sprightly on acceleration the stability and sure footedness was incredible. I was throwing the car around the bends having real fun and to be honest my bravery ran out before the cars ability to hold the road!! I was really dissapointed when I descended back below the snow line and had to change back in to Normal Road mode. Amazing bit of kit our RRS  2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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GONE - RRS - 2.7 TDV6 HSE - Java Black (2007)
GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

Don't try the same thing on snow over ice............................. it can lead to brown trousers or at worst tears!
TR is great but it can't cope with everything. I had a couple of heart stopping moments last January driving to Glasgow Airport at 4 in the morning after it had snowed on top of a freeze up.
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Yep, Thanks Tim. I know exactly what you're talking about. Living and working up here I'm pretty used to driving in all conditions. The snow I was in was the Lovely fluffy stuff and I had brake tested at several points just to be sure I wasn't on ice. It was bloody good fun I have to tell you, More from seeing the car do it's stuff than just the driving itself  2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
2013 Evoque 5 Door Pure Tech SD4 - Orkney Grey with Panoramic Roof (Mrs E's new baby)

GONE - RRS - 3.0 TDV6 HSE - Santorini (2010)
GONE - RRS - 2.7 TDV6 HSE - Java Black (2007)
GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

Oh - and the Tyres are the ones that came on the car. Wrangler F1. 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
2013 Evoque 5 Door Pure Tech SD4 - Orkney Grey with Panoramic Roof (Mrs E's new baby)

GONE - RRS - 3.0 TDV6 HSE - Santorini (2010)
GONE - RRS - 2.7 TDV6 HSE - Java Black (2007)
GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

My heart stopping/ brown trouser moments were with the Contientals that the Tdv6 came with - I would never ever have those on a car for the winter again. My new car is running on Pirellis and they are OK, the best all round tyre I have had in recent years were the Goodyear HP Wrangler Mud and Snow tyres. They were excellent in the snow and pretty impressive off-road too, they ran quietly onroad and had excellent wear characteristics but LR don't seem to fit them to RRSports 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

you have to put it in neutral before you change the settings of the TR? RRS SC Bonatti Grey

No, you can change your TR settings whilst in gear. You only need to engage neutral if changing between high and low range. Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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TB wrote:

No, you can change your TR settings whilst in gear. You only need to engage neutral if changing between high and low range.

Oh, Ah well, I got that wrong, but I was doing it for the 1st time in a real situation and had a memory of having to change in to neutral from reading the manual - better safe than sorry at the top of a mountain in a snow storm! I'll know next time that I can just change on the go.  2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

I have the Continental - Sport Contact tyres fitted to 20" rims are they crap in the snow?

Main reason I ask is I'm trying to get my head around having to buy winter tyres because I'm selling the RR Sport in March and not getting another one. Is there a 2nd hand market for RR winter tyres?

For years now I have gone skiing in Austria in my front wheel drive Mitsubishi, without winter tyres and not had any real problems. This is the first time I have had what you would call the perfect car for the trip to find out the Austrian law has changed and it is now compulsory to have winter tyres fitted .

When I was in the dealer at Hasselt on monday they had a big display of diffrent types of snow chain for landrovers and litriture on winter tyres and driving from Landrover, pity it was all in Dutch. Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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Hi, Sorry Im new here and this is my first post. I think you will find that most "normal tyres fitted to our cars are "crap" on snow as they are standard road tyres. Standard road tyres have a higher consistency of synthetic rubber which causes them to act a bit harder in temperatures from 7 degC downwards. Snow tyres (which look nearly identical) have higher concentrations of natural rubber which helps the evacuate snow and also stay soft. Even on Ice you will find that the snow tyres will grip more than normal tyres but only enough!

I've just fitted some Yokahama W-drive to my TDV8, I found that they produce these for all the RRS sizes but I opted for a set of 19" wheels as the tyres are narrower which is better for snow driving (I live near the mountains and go skiing nearly every weekend).

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Ciao Sacha, benvenuto nel forum.

Agree completely.
My short experience with the Conti off road with snow showed they are pretty useless.

Also consider insurance issues, at least around here if you have an accident, even if is not your fault, insurance will give you headache if you are not equipped. '08 RRS TDV8
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flydive wrote:

Ciao Sacha, benvenuto nel forum.

Agree completely.
My short experience with the Conti off road with snow showed they are pretty useless.

Also consider insurance issues, at least around here if you have an accident, even if is not your fault, insurance will give you headache if you are not equipped.

All - I can certainly vouch for the 20" Nokian tyres that I was using in Germany last year. They were as good as Contis on road / autobahn and I even took the car up pisted snow tracks without problem. It's hard to get 20" chains and they'd probably scratch your wheels anyway, so I found these to be the perfect solution for looks and grip.

Tony - Mine might be for sale soon as I broke my leg and will be giving up the snowboarding for at least a year (maybe for ever!). I'll offer them to whoever buys my black TDV8 first and if they're not interested I'll put them on here.

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tony wright wrote:

I have the Continental - Sport Contact tyres fitted to 20" rims are they crap in the snow?

Main reason I ask is I'm trying to get my head around having to buy winter tyres because I'm selling the RR Sport in March and not getting another one. Is there a 2nd hand market for RR winter tyres?

For years now I have gone skiing in Austria in my front wheel drive Mitsubishi, without winter tyres and not had any real problems. This is the first time I have had what you would call the perfect car for the trip to find out the Austrian law has changed and it is now compulsory to have winter tyres fitted .

I live in Bavaria and have a place in Austria too so know how bad the snow can be. I have Pirelli Scorpions and they are superb.

The German law has changed too. You MUST have tyres that are "appropriate for the conditions". That means that if you are stopped and the police deem your tyres to inappropriate for the conditions, you will be fined, given points and will have to cease your journey on the spot.
Basically you need snow tyres/all weather tyres by law now.