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Leo



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Congratulation Raikkonnen

Forza Ferrari!!! Bow down Bow down

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Kaine



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yep - I agree - well done Raikkonnen Thumbs Up

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If Hamilton had won by the one point it would have been attributed to the so called advantages of the Ferrari espionage. So yes a deserved win and championship for Raikkonnen. Thumbs Up Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

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If Hamilton had won by one point then I think Alonso would have thrown a tantrum worse than that of any 3 year old . I wonder if Alonso will be driving for MacLaren next season................ 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
If Hamilton had won by one point then I think Alonso would have thrown a tantrum worse than that of any 3 year old . I wonder if Alonso will be driving for MacLaren next season................
They were saying on Sporza here that he is going back to Renault for next year Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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Just on the 10-30pm news that BMW may be disqualified for irregularities - which would mean Hamilton came 4th and is the world champion Bow down Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

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Not just BMW... From Autosport

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BMW Sauber and Williams are under investigation of the Brazilian Grand Prix race stewards

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63547 Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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I heard this... so how did it finish up? 

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McLaren are apealing the stewards decision, Alonso is speaking out against McLaren and Kimi is still world champ.
Damon Hill has spoken out against the FIA for giving inconsistent decisions that seem to favour one team.
Ea
Eddy Jordan is saying that the cooled fuel could be worth about 10hp and about 1 second a lap plus the fact that they could squeeze more fuel in the tanks due to it being denser.

Wonder how it will end Yawn Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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At the end of the day Rules are Rules. I'm sure Hamilton wouldn't want to win the world championship in this way. But - That said, McLaren have really been given a hard time by Max Mosely & the FIA this year. It is very debatable wether there really was any "espionage" against Ferrari by McLaren and the evidence would not have stood up in a court of law. What is clear is that several employees of each company DID act illegally but most fair minded people accept that they were doing it to assist their own ambitions NOT their current teams. The FIA are never consistent when it comes to handing out penalties (especially where Ferrari are concerned), Anyone remember the Illegal Ferrari Aero Parts a couple of years ago Rolling Eyes As for Alonso, I used to rate the guy and I concede that he is a great driver but I have lost ALL respect for him over the way he has handled himself recently. He's acted like a small child that, when they don't get their own way, stands crying and stamping their feet for attention! Pathetic!! Shocked Kimi is a deserving winner, but I can understand Ron Dennis's frustration over such an issue. The rules should not take account of the importance of the individual race but simply of the circumstances of the alleged infringement. If the rules were broken then there is only one fair outcome. If you reversed the roles and put Ferrari in McLarens position - Can you honestly say that Ferrari (the most political team in F1) would not have appealed? 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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And here was I thinking that F1 had started to get worth watching again, but it appears not to be.............. all this squabbling is getting boring. Why don't FIA just say "you can spend this much in a season and once it's spent tough titty............................." That would concentrated the minds of those in the technical and legal departments wonderfully, especially if lawyers fees were to be included in the amount that each team were allowed to spend. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
And here was I thinking that F1 had started to get worth watching again, but it appears not to be.............. all this squabbling is getting boring. Why don't FIA just say "you can spend this much in a season and once it's spent tough titty............................." That would concentrated the minds of those in the technical and legal departments wonderfully,especially if lawyers fees were to be included in the amount that each team were allowed to spend.


Now that's a nice idea Tim Thumbs Up 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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Formula Fiasco at its finest. The way the FIA act you can't help but think they want Ferrari to win everything given the lack of penalty given to Ferrari at the beginning of the year (anyone remember the false floors they were using?) and the fact that Stepneygate came about after that incident.

Funny how they've refused to investigate his claims that it was a two way process between himself, Coughlan et al.

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Unwritten rules for Ferrari... so they did not get upset and leave the championship.. even though there drivers had to follow team orders and a few thought they were driving panzerwagens... ask Damon and Jacques Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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Absolutely first-class analysis, Endjin; can't add to that. Very Happy

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