My stealer tempted me with a test drive in the new Defender today. I confess she feels pretty darn similar to the old defender, and pretty agricultural after jumping out of the Sport. Nothing wrong with that though, and she certainly has a few more creature comforts and a fair bit more Pep than the old TD5. There still is a lack of cabin space, particularly for your right arm / elbow, which is constantly banging off the drivers door / window.

Anyway, a creepy thing happened on my test drive. Thrashing around the lanes East of Carlisle, I swung through one village to see a mint, L reg, Defender 90, Couty Station Wagon parked up at the side of the road with a For Sale sign in the window. The chap who owns her had put the Sale sign in her window that morning and parked her on the street to see if anyone passing was interested. Stopped to take an oggle, and what we found was a totally mint, and I do mean mint, Dec 1993, Red, CSW (from new, not a convert), with only 52,000 on the clock. Every stamp in the book from new, every invoice, every MOT certifcate, 2 careful owners, never off roaded, still got original under seal / waxoyl. Totally original, except for addition of a CD player inside. Normal noisy 200Tdi, but still very gutsy and pulls like a train and corners really well for an old gal.

Simply couldn't resist it, so bought her on the spot, after a bit of haggle, for £4,400. This will be a great vehicle for dog walking, moutain biking, visits to the tip, gentle off roading and getting to w##k in the winter.

The new Defender did then feel a lot quieter, quicker, smoother and flasher, but in all honesty, the 200Tdi felt more fun

Picking her up on Friday, and can't wait Will now be a 4 Land Rover family - but dont forget, the fully prep'd offroader is still for sale (see http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic6675.html )

Now busily deciding what toys to add on (steering guard, steel sills, all terrains on silver modulars, snorkel and possibly front winch). But think I'll leave her alone after that. When something that is this old, and still totally original, you don't want to cut her up and fanny on with her too much. Any other ideas gratefully received.

When I finally buy a digital camera and work out how to, I'll post up some pictures. RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
Disco 4 TDv6 HSE Ipanema
Defender 90, 200tdi CSW

Welcome to the four owner Landy club Smarticus sounds quite smart, lets see some pics

As you say it would be a shame to about to much with an original TRUCK like that  some of my Previous cars
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FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
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ENVOY wrote:

Welcome to the four owner Landy club Smarticus sounds quite smart, lets see some pics

As you say it would be a shame to about to much with an original motor like that

Do you mean TRUCK Envoy???  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

sorry original post changed  some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
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current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

The bosses at Land Rover will be proud of you but I bet the dealer is spitting bricks that you bought a 14 years old 200Tdi instead of his shiney new Puma Engined Defender with a nice dash, decent ventilation and a heater that does something 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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decent ventilation and a heater that does something

Tim are you having problems, my two TRUCKS both have incredible heaters and as for ventilation the wind comes from everywhere , yeah i bet the dealer wasnt to impressed with S for doing that

Try cleaning out the heater box and matrix and also flush the heater matrix out, that does the trick usually  some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
______________________________
current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

Tim in Scotland wrote:

The bosses at Land Rover will be proud of you but I bet the dealer is spitting bricks that you bought a 14 years old 200Tdi instead of his shiney new Puma Engined Defender with a nice dash, decent ventilation and a heater that does something

E, fresh air ventilation as you say isn't a problem - want colder aircon then open the vents under the windscreen another notch and drive faster. My 90's heater is much quicker to warm up than my RRS (even with the FBH it still takes an age longer than the 90, thank goodness for the seat heaters). I suspect like you that the heater matrix is getting clogged up - regular dunking in peaty muddy water over the years cannot have helped it - as the quantity of air coming out is gradually getting less and less! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

I normally drive a Defender/Truck, with the window down,(somewhere to stick the elbow !!) and a front vent open to equalise the cabin pressure, Can not do with the new one,, missing that already

S,, sounds like you found a gem their they are about !! 997 TT, RR TDV8 Vog SE 90 V8 Hybrid
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