Hi guys, currently got a X5, which I’ve been putting off changing for ages. I really like the look of the Range Rover sport and as far as 4x4 go don’t really think there is much better looking on the market.

The only concern i have is around reliability, a friend had a RR Vouge which was plagued with problems and I’ve heard of similar stories. Is this common with the RR Sport, obviously there will be the odd problem car, faults during ownership ect, but overall how is the car?

Im also interested to know if there is a model replacement, facelift, refresh planned in the next few years?? I have’nt heard of this myself but i may not be in the look as you guys are.

Finally, can you suggest any models to steer clear, ie tdv6, tv8 4.4 or supercharged. I really fancy a 4.2 Supercharged, HST tickles my fancy but may end up with a used year old one.

Cheers Chris

Welcome to the forum X5, we have loads of former X5 owners here, and former owners of other sportier BM's. I won't hide anything, yes there have been a handful of people on here who have had problems but the vast majority have never had anything fall off or go wrong. The biggest problem with owning any Land Rover is finding a good dealer to service it.................................. sometimes their attitude can be very offhand and frustrating, but when you find a good'un they are excellent. I am biased as my RRS is my 6th Land Rover product and none have been unreliable and only one has required roadside attention from land Rover Assist. My "fleet" has been Disco 1 V8i ES, Disco2 TD5 (the one that broke down on the way to being traded in and needed rescuing!), Freelander TD4,
Big Range Rover (aka FFRR) TD6 (the most unrefined engined LR I have owned...... even making allowance for my 11year old Defender) and currently I am running a RRSport TDv6SE and the 11 year old Defender that just runs and runs and runs despite being used mainly for offraoding fun and gets hammered.
I won't say that unreliablity is a myth, but like all marques, when somebody gets a bad one they make a huge hue and cry about it. Land Rover products are actually no worse than any other brand.
My experience of X5's is a neighbours 4.8i (he always praised the BMW's he had owned previously) that spent 4 months out of the 6 he owned it in the dealer's workshop and he used to laugh at me buying Land Rovers............................. he now runs a FFRR TD6 that has done in excess of 100,000 miles and he has just ordered a TDv8 version. His wife has an R reg (one of the first) Freelander 1.8's (the unreliable one!) that has more than 200,000 miles on it and has never missed a beat, but they also don't stint on the servicing, both cars get serviced by the local nonFranchised LR service specialist and not the village garage. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Welcome along x5pea!

I'd agree with what Tim says... as we all know the large majority of cars of any marque operate perfectly well for the length of their ownership, but you tend only to hear about the problems. Yes, there have been problems with RRSs, but that's not to say you'd have any problems and what recurring problems do exist, most seem to have easily applied solutions now.

The SC drinks fuel like it's going out of fashion, so it's not the one to go for if you do loads of miles and have to pay for your own petrol. It's also the one that loses the greatest value.... in addition, the release of the TDV8 engine has somewhat lessened the gap in performance between the diesel and the petrol model.

The 08 model year has just entered production with the next model year going becoming available in Sepember. No news of an official "refresh" where we might see a "new shape" RRS, but LR are traditionally not quick at releasing "new" models. They've only just updated the Freelander after 10 years...

The smart money is on a TDV8 HSE....  

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Cheers guys

I know you do get problems but i have heard a lot of RR stories.

I kow what ur saying about the TDV8, but looking at the 2nd hand SC RRS they are relitavely competitivly priced.

How well spec'd is the SC, dose it come with most of the toys? Id be interested to hear the view of SC owners on their views of the RRS SC over others such as FFRR SC, Cayenne Turbo, New X5 ect

Cheers again

S/C RRS over FFRR S/C........................... FFRR is the daddy of them all - it is amazing that such a heavy vehicle can do the things that it can do but you are looking at 12mpg on a good day, horrendous depreciation (RRS isn't much different either in both respects). Dealers seem to have a good selection of both FFRR S/cand RRS S/C as many owners are moving over to the TDv8 instead - it's performance isn't far off the S/C but you still get low 20's mpg on a bad day. FFRR has much better quality interior than RRS (I've owned both an RRS and a FFRR) but the RRS is not bad, and more "sporty" - you feel like you are sitting in it's seats rather than perched on them as you do in the FFRR. You can search dealer stocks of used cars from the Land Rover website
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehicles/overview.htm if you type in your postcode in the top right corner it will send you to a list of the nearest dealers to you and then click on "Dealer Website" then "Vehicles", "Apporved Used" and "Search" - RRS and FFRR - you can search by price or model.
Morrison's Stirling Land Rover have a FFRR Vogue SE S/C for sale at the moment, it's Tonga Green with Ebony and every toy imaginable - it's been on their forecourt since last September unloved and unwanted and at £49995 probably hagglable! It's got moderate miles and considering it cost the best part of £75000 20 months ago could be viewed as a bargain, if you can afford the fuel!

As you state your location as Lanarkshire I would suggest you take a trip up to Taggarts in Motherwell or their City Centre branch in Maryhill Road in Glasgow where they have a good selection of both new and used RRS and FFRR's. There is also Parks who are Land Rover Dealers. I would not recommend Shields Land Rover to anybody - I had awful experiences with them when I was trying to buy a car and I know several others who wouldn't go across their showroom or service area threshold ever again. I have used Morrison's Stirling for the last 5 landies and have always had great service but not much discount (usually none!) - if you go up there (they are at bannockburn just off the M8/M9 junction) ask for Robert, Gordon, Tom or Chris and tell them I recommended them to you. They know me well but you won't get a discount on the strength of it! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Cheers guys........

Ive been to taggarts ect and others in surrounding area, will get there in the end. Im not in any great rush tbh ive had the x5 for ages so anothe rmonth or two wont make a difference.

Think im going to go with my heart and get the S/C, i know the tdv8 may well be just as quick chipped but my experiance of the tdv6 was very disapointing and put me right off the deisels.

A friend of a friend bought a Kahn Spec RRS HSE recently and i went and had a look at his and im loving the styling ect

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A friend of a friend bought a Kahn Spec RRS HSE recently and i went and had a look at his and im loving the styling ect

Tim in Scotland wrote:

x5pea wrote:

A friend of a friend bought a Kahn Spec RRS HSE recently and i went and had a look at his and im loving the styling ect

Something best to kept to yourself I think.................................................

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X5, you should type Kahn into the search function and read some of the postings.................. their confections/creations are not universally popular with RRS.co.uk members. But each to their own, if that's what will sell you an RRS then go for it, but believe me they just don't need all the Kahn bits (even the Tdv6!). I think we have a couple of members here who have Kahn converted RRS's and definately one with a Kahn FFRR. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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x5pea wrote:

Very Annoyed wrote:

I'm with Tim!

Best hope Tim isnt in the shower

 RRS TDV6 Gone but still around
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BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
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Tim in Scotland wrote:

their confections/creations are not universally popular with RRS.co.uk members.

Dont see what the problem is with Kahn products......... I heard the whole LR/RR scean was vey OEM right enough.......

Some of them are a little garish....................................... I that is the politest way I could put it!

I wouldn't mind a set of their RSX wheels though................................ if it wasn't for the fact that anything over 20" totally destroys the ride on an RRS and makes it into a filling loosening, disc jarring affair, which is why LR don't recommend anything bigger 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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