Just curious as to how these hybrid models p400e etc work in real life use. Once the battery is depleted what kind of performance do you get? What would be typical average mpg compared to standard models. -----------------------------------------------
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I own an L494 P400e. I’ve never noticed any performance drop when the battery is fully depleted.

The car will constantly regenerate (when braking/coasting), so there will always be some when it’s needed.

You may notice a drop in performance if you really put your foot down - but the chances of you needing that extra boost is pretty minimal I think.

The MPG of course takes a dive when the battery depletes (batteries are heavy lumps of course). You might well drop 10mpg with a 0% battery.

But then, who buys a Range Rover to save money… 2021 P400e Autobiography

Thanks. That’s helpful to hear real world experience. Thanks. -----------------------------------------------
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EV mode is great though - takes “wafting” to a whole new level.

For short journeys, it’s great. 2021 P400e Autobiography

@spiderpig. I bet.

So. Although no one buys these looking for low cost motoring, JLR suggest it will get an average of 85mpg. What is the real world number. -----------------------------------------------
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I am getting an indicated average of 55 mpg over a year, it totally depends on your mix of driving. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

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Plus a few other cars inbetween!

It depends on the length of your journeys, like with any PHEV.

Last weekend, I did a 25 mile round trip after being fully charged at home and got 156mpg - would have been more if I'd have driven a bit more conservatively.

On the way back from holiday a month or so back, I got 33mpg after not charging the battery.

Most of my trips are local, so use EV mode a lot of the time (although of course circumstances need to be right for the car to choose EV mode) but I do a few longer trips as well.

I'm personally getting about 700 miles from a 90 ltr tank. This equates to a real mpg of about 36mpg.

Since I picked up the car in the middle of March, I've run a little over 3,000 miles - a third of that has been in EV mode.

But then, this is my usage. Everyone's PHEV experience is different due to differences in average journey length and how often you charge.

Bear in mind though that a full battery doesn't guarantee you 25-30 miles of EV driving before the battery depletes - the car will only use EV mode if the batteries are warm enough and the power demand suits EV mode.

You also need to weigh up the increased cost of ownership of the P400e (being more expensive to buy than petrol or diesel variants) because it's not likely that the savings in fuel over 5 years ownership will counteract the higher cost to purchase.

For me, it's a lifestyle choice. I like wafting around in complete silence (well, apart from the tire and wind noise). 2021 P400e Autobiography

jimbg wrote:

I am getting an indicated average of 55 mpg over a year, it totally depends on your mix of driving.

No idea, I half fill it every few months!

I have done about 8,000 miles to average 55 mpg. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

The thing that a lot of people tend to ignore is the cost of the electricity. Its not free, so the more MPG you're showing the more you've spent on electric. If that's not done at home it can be very expensive.

These are not the sort of car that you are likely to charge away from home, that's why you choose a hybrid.

In nearly 3 years of ownership I have only charged at home or a few hotels that were free. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Its still not free, so has to be added onto the total running cost. I have some experience running hybrids, not Landrover products, but a 2020 Cayenne ehybrid. A lovely car if very short of actual electric only distance, and that was back in the day when electric cost 11p per KWH. It really could get up and go though, so if the RRS hybrid is anything similar it will be a rocket ship. For me I'll keep it simple for the time being and stick with diesel

No one said it is free, I pay 7.5p per KWH, so roughly £1 for 25 miles. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

RabJ wrote:

Its still not free, so has to be added onto the total running cost. I have some experience running hybrids, not Landrover products, but a 2020 Cayenne ehybrid. A lovely car if very short of actual electric only distance, and that was back in the day when electric cost 11p per KWH. It really could get up and go though, so if the RRS hybrid is anything similar it will be a rocket ship. For me I'll keep it simple for the time being and stick with diesel

SpiderPig wrote:

I own an L494 P400e. I’ve never noticed any performance drop when the battery is fully depleted.