After 24 hours running around in a Q7, I was delighted to get back into my RRS. The Q7 was a big disappointment - and that was despite trying to be as open minded as possible.

Compared to a RRS the Q7 felt less refined, a much poorer driving position, dark as a pot hole inside, plastics below par for an Audi and personally I still think the Q7 is an ugly beast.

The 3 litre diesel feels like an old unit now compared to either the TDv6 or TDv8. It works hard for a living, but doesn't inspire at all. The driving position is low and visibility is very poor. The controls are very complex and totally non intuitive. Audi seems to have borrowed an I-drive like system from BMW, and I couldn't make head nor tail of it. The handbrake is borrowed from Mercedes with that stupid little foot pedal and a pull out release mechanism.

Jumping back inside the RRS felt like a significant step up (literally, mechanically and looks). I had been at risk of starting to take for granted the RRS's peerless engine, world beating suspension, fabulous driving position and huge character. I suggest if anyone is starting to question whether the RRS is still the class leading vehicle - just book a test drive in an M, X or Q class and you will soon remember why the RRS was, and still is, the best choice for the discerning motorist.

 RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
Disco 4 TDv6 HSE Ipanema
Defender 90, 200tdi CSW

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But - i do think there is plenty of room for improvement with the RRS 
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I think the Q7 it too small inside - the rear seats look tiny!

Nice as the front, not too bad at the sides, butt ugly from the rear - slug like

Smarticus wrote:

After 24 hours running around in a Q7, I was delighted to get back into my RRS. The Q7 was a big disappointment - and that was despite trying to be as open minded as possible.

Compared to a RRS the Q7 felt less refined, a much poorer driving position, dark as a pot hole inside, plastics below par for an Audi and personally I still think the Q7 is an ugly beast.

The 3 litre diesel feels like an old unit now compared to either the TDv6 or TDv8. It works hard for a living, but doesn't inspire at all. The driving position is low and visibility is very poor. The controls are very complex and totally non intuitive. Audi seems to have borrowed an I-drive like system from BMW, and I couldn't make head nor tail of it. The handbrake is borrowed from Mercedes with that stupid little foot pedal and a pull out release mechanism.

Jumping back inside the RRS felt like a significant step up (literally, mechanically and looks). I had been at risk of starting to take for granted the RRS's peerless engine, world beating suspension, fabulous driving position and huge character. I suggest if anyone is starting to question whether the RRS is still the class leading vehicle - just book a test drive in an M, X or Q class and you will soon remember why the RRS was, and still is, the best choice for the discerning motorist.

Drove an x5 diesel recently (about 5k on the clock ).
Not as quiet as the RRS
More mid range resonances and vibrations than the RRS
Worse fuel economy than my Td V6 RRS driven on the same roads and in roughly the same fashion.
More instant response than my RRS but not as good after initial surge of torque.
CONCLUSION
The BMW engine is good and in a very well mannered vehicle but compared to my RRS is showing it's design age.

ps Nobody looks twice at an x5 whereas the RRS nearly causes accidents..particularly young women

ivery819 wrote:

ps Nobody looks twice at an x5 whereas the RRS nearly causes accidents..particularly young women

That's nothing to do with the RRS, people just cant believe how hideously ugly you are  some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
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current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

more over no low range in Q7 = X5= all rubish all wheel drive 2007 Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Buckingham Blue, Ivory converted to HST Silver

SOLD-V8 Defender 90

Peerless engine? The TDv6? Come on now, the X5 3 litre diesel has always been much better hasn't it? (at least in terms of speed and fuel consumption)[/quote]

X5 3 litre diesel is only much better in terms of speed and fuel consumption because it doesn't weigh as much as the RRS. Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

I've owned both and you're dead right rrsjo!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

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Quote "That's nothing to do with the RRS, people just cant believe how hideously ugly you are "

Whilst that is true I am very careful to hide behind very dark glass so as not to scare the horses.....so it must be the RRS



Some years ago we were all bouncing along to a little ditty in my RRC and old mate mowing his front lawn was so busy watching us with his mouth open that he ran his mower over his lawn sprinkler........now that WAS funny

See even your neighbor must think you are really ugly  some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
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current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

I'm sooo ugly that I'm only allowed out in public if I walk backwards.

What about the poor behind  some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
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current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

I'm sooo ugly that I've been asked to appear at Korean Motor Shows