So currently running Nexen Roadian HPs (275/45 r20) and although they have been a great tyre from a grip/noise point of view the wer rate hasn't been that good.

They're now down to around 2mm and have only covered ~20,000mls.

So in my quest to find the perfect tyre for little/no money (I know it doesn't truly exist), beyond the usual recommendations for Perelli, Conti and other such enormously expensive rubber does anyone have any decent suggestions for a slightly higher mileage mid range tyre, so far I'm considering the following:

Nexen Roadian HP (my current tyres and a possible candidate)
Falken FK510 SUV XL
Cooper ZEON LTX
General Grabber AT3
Hankook Ventus RH06

I don't necessarily need an AT, but having the ability to get across wet grass without spinning the wheels and getting nowhere would be good. I have driven other 4x4 on ATs so understand the limitations of the on road manners etc.

Any suggestions/recommendations welcome, but please don't be offended if i don't go with your personal favourites (I'm just trying to get some real world reviews of mid range tyres to help with the decision process).

Thanks in advance 2006 RRS HSE 2.7 TDV6 (The Baby one as I keep being told)
1999 Discovery 4.0 V8 (Gone but not forgotten)
1997 Range Rover 3.5 V8 (Long gone now)
1966 Series II SWB with RR 3.5 V8 (Never finished, now sold)

I fitted the General Grabber AT3 earlier this year and very happy so far. Not sure on rate of wear as only had them for 3-4000 miles (due to lockdown etc). Fuel consumption appears to be no worse.

Off road they are much better than normal road tyres but not invincible in deep wet mud - even in a field.





Only slight down side of AT tyres for me as that I have a gravel driveway and the AT drags stones into the road so badly that I sweep the pavement and road outside our gate every other day! There is no replacement for displacement - W O Bentley

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Have no experience of your suggested tyre, but, over say 40,000 miles, the expensive ones to buy should be cheaper in the long run.

The weight of our vehicles really need a 'proper' tyre.

Dave 2010 3.6 TDV8 HSE (Gone)
2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)

Dave,

Not wanting to cause an argument, and this where I'm having the problem, what exactly constitutes a proper tyre?

All above are in excess of the required load rating for the sport ie 106v, admittedly the Cooper LTX and the Grabber have a lower speed rating but are in excess of the national speed limits so there is a question as to whether that would be an issue or not.

The cheapest 110v rated Pirelli i could get was £199, whereas the cheapest of the above the Nexen 110v was £115.

That makes a saving of £336 for four tyres, almost 1/2 price and getting 20,000(ish) out of the cheaper tyres is the same as 40,000(ish)out of the expensive ones.

Like I say not trying to cause an argument, i'm trying to understand the need for the uber expensive over the mid range and also trying to establish if anyone has any experience of the above tyres.

I have Contis on my old Kuga and swapped them for a set of Avons and the difference in noise and comfort was amazing and there was little if any difference in handling between the 2 makes, And this what makes so damn tricky to pick the right tyre  2006 RRS HSE 2.7 TDV6 (The Baby one as I keep being told)
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1997 Range Rover 3.5 V8 (Long gone now)
1966 Series II SWB with RR 3.5 V8 (Never finished, now sold)

Fully understand your point of view.

A friend put £90 budget tyres on his RRS, and spirited driving caused concern with noticeable wear on the outer shoulders in next to no time.

If you were to pick up a Michelin 4x4 tyre by the sidewall, it would deflect out due to the weight. Do the same with the Pirelli Verde All Season and the sidewall will remain vertical. Both are quality tyres designed for 4x4 use, but the Pirelli was made specifically for use by Land/Range Rover.

How much a tyre deflects under load/use determines the wear rate.

I had a Quattro Sport many years ago, Goodyear F1 tyres were the best for it and lasted 15,000 miles a corner, I once put Bridgestones on and they were shot at the edges before 10,000.

That's just my point of view, another friend likes to have new tyres every year, so puts soft ones on, has the grip but realises the trade off is having to change them more often.

No one is right and no one is wrong, we just have different points of view, I just know both my RRS and my Disco4 Commercial which tows for a living will only ever have Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Seasons on them.

Dave 2010 3.6 TDV8 HSE (Gone)
2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)

A lot depends upon your driving style and journeys.
If you don't tow and mostly do motorways, then a budget tyre should be fine.
If you push it a bit on twistys then you do get what you pay for. RRS HSE Dynamic SDV6 2014

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I've had hankook ventus on mine since I bought it ( 7 years),, neverhad any issues and Wear rate seems to be as good as anything else,,, I don't drive like i stole it though  2010 RRS, TDV8
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Thanks all, think this one going to a bit of a tough choice. I guess I was hoping that all of them had been tried by folks on the forum to get some real world reviews rather than the usual Pistonheads reviews the everything not Goodyear/Conti will kill you in the most hideous manner imaginable.

Driving style is fairly quick but not on the ragged edge all the time, but spirited (as much as the 2.7 can manage ) when the feeling takes.

Mostly A road driving with some long M/way stuff thrown in for good measure. Good only knows what I'll end up with, however I will make sure it's Wanli widowmakers or LingLong LoveYouLongTimes  2006 RRS HSE 2.7 TDV6 (The Baby one as I keep being told)
1999 Discovery 4.0 V8 (Gone but not forgotten)
1997 Range Rover 3.5 V8 (Long gone now)
1966 Series II SWB with RR 3.5 V8 (Never finished, now sold)

I understand the cheaper Chinese ditchfinders have less rubber in them, flex more and hence wear on the shoulders. Apart from grip issues, if you drive "spiritedly" you will need to replace them much earlier than a better tyre so the saving may be less than you think.
I had Conti Sports on mine when I got it and they are (wrere?) notorious for shoulder wear, as did mine. I am trying Hankook Ventus ST RHo6's and so far so good (albeit I drive like Miss Daisy) at £140 a corner.

Eskimo wrote:

Nexen Roadian HP (my current tyres and a possible candidate)
Falken FK510 SUV XL
Cooper ZEON LTX
General Grabber AT3
Hankook Ventus RH06

I don't necessarily need an AT, but having the ability to get across wet grass without spinning the wheels and getting nowhere would be good. I have driven other 4x4 on ATs so understand the limitations of the on road manners etc.

Ive recently had a full set of AT3'S put on after chatting to the chap who runs our local land-rover outdoor experience center. I wanted something with some decent all round ability, living on the edge of Dartmoor and towing a trailer occasionally into fields.
He said the difference in his opinion between these and pure road tires was negligible, with the exception of those that push hard into bends might see them less competent because of the flex in the sidewalls.
Im very happy with them so far and not at all noisy i have a 255 55 20's and got all 4 fitted for £550

Hi,
would this be a good time to mention "Winter tyres" as well it is that time of year to put them on

think the list you have done only has the At3's that are 3SF winter rated.

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I’m in Hankook Ventus, nice tyre and a decent price. 2018 Telsa MS
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Drewlr4 wrote:

Ive recently had a full set of AT3'S put on after chatting to the chap who runs our local land-rover outdoor experience center. I wanted something with some decent all round ability, living on the edge of Dartmoor and towing a trailer occasionally into fields.
He said the difference in his opinion between these and pure road tires was negligible, with the exception of those that push hard into bends might see them less competent because of the flex in the sidewalls.
Im very happy with them so far and not at all noisy i have a 255 55 20's and got all 4 fitted for £550

Think I'm leaning towards the AT3s as it would give that slight advantage when needed.

Just trying to see if can get a decent price on either 275/45r20 or 275/45r20, but seems a little tricky getting the V rated. Loads of places have the H rated but not V.

Does anyone recommend going for the lower speed rating or is that a major no no? I would assume it is a no no....... 2006 RRS HSE 2.7 TDV6 (The Baby one as I keep being told)
1999 Discovery 4.0 V8 (Gone but not forgotten)
1997 Range Rover 3.5 V8 (Long gone now)
1966 Series II SWB with RR 3.5 V8 (Never finished, now sold)