It seems that JLR has again managed to fix a problem but only with a side effect. I have been reading reports of lots of owners of JLR cars with the 4 cylinder Ingenium engines that have been subject to a recent massive recall for oil,dilution and CO2 emissions issues now have a problem with the auto Stop/Start system not working (could that have been fix for the oil dilution problem?) and being unable to clear the “Battery low start engine “ warning from the instrument cluster.......... 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

So the software update has made things worse? Sounds about right for JLR

Tim in Scotland wrote:

It seems that JLR has again managed to fix a problem but only with a side effect. I have been reading reports of lots of owners of JLR cars with the 4 cylinder Ingenium engines that have been subject to a recent massive recall for oil,dilution and CO2 emissions issues now have a problem with the auto Stop/Start system not working (could that have been fix for the oil dilution problem?) and being unable to clear the “Battery low start engine “ warning from the instrument cluster..........

There isn’t a fix for the oil dilution issues on the 4 cylinder cars, it’s just a fudge which changes the algorithm so the service indicator comes on at 10% dilution level rather than the previous 6%.

They can’t fix a design issue and have opted to cut their costs on free oil changes by pushing the limits of the engine so unsuspecting owners down the line are going to be buying trouble. Already reports on the Disco Sport forum of engine failures due to lack of lubrication.

Land Rover deserve to fail, to be honest. Their attitude to customers is shocking. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tim, JLR aren’t written off for a future purchase, just that I will go into any buy well aware that they have a few more issues than other marques. I still own a JLR product and that has NEVER had a mechanical issue in 23 years (at least not one that wasn’t created my mal-treatment if the vehicle!) it has no sophisticated/complex modern electronics to go wrong either as it is from an era before all the fancy equipment and toys necessary today. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Looking at an I Pace then Tim, me to, however the price is too much for me. Nice car though. In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

The prices on the approved used website don’t seem to match the windscreen stickers on the forecourt for the same vehicle - on the forecourt they are lower! I’ve looked at 3 SE’s, all with less than 2500 miles ex demo or ex management cars all showing as between 59 and 65k on the website but generally stickered 4-5k less on the same dealership forecourt for the same car! Test drive was no problem but when I asked for 48 hours test drive that was going to be difficult.......... I asked about finance rates...... best we can offer sir is 9.9% APR, I nearly passed out! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

9.9% APR, I will loan you the money

Even worse in Spain, I Pace HSE with a few bits €107.783,01  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.