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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
Just back from a 40 mile trip and even the stop start battery has fully charged as the system cut in and stopped the engine as I waited for traffic to pass when I wanted to turn right into the farm lane I live on. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Sat Apr 29 2017 1:11pm |
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philmw Member Since: 18 Aug 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1672 |
Mine's much better now after the power module update. |
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Sat Apr 29 2017 4:34pm |
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Chrisr1806 Member Since: 23 Jun 2013 Location: Sussex Posts: 683 |
Mine too, Stop/Start seems to be working much more often than it did before the service. Arrived: MY16 A/B SDV6 in Aruba, Ivory interior, piano black trim, black panoramic roof, spare wheel, blind spot monitoring, mudlaps and more...
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Sat Apr 29 2017 7:06pm |
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wilf Member Since: 08 Nov 2012 Location: on the naughty step Posts: 939 |
Please tell me more about access height "sending the electronics to sleep", this is a new one to me. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.
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Sat Apr 29 2017 8:57pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
In 2001 when Disco3 was launched there was a note in the owner's manual that if parking the car for long time then it was best to lower the car to access height as that was a signal to the car's systems to shut down completely to reduce battery drain. L322 FFRR's had the same instruction in 2003 and then RRS had it as well in 2005. I have always continued to do it and a couple of dealership service managers have told me that it still holds good today - to the extent that with cars from 2016MY on they now automatically lower before you get out, after switching off the ignition. When people here report battery flattening issues I have always asked if they have been in the habit of lowering the car. The car's systems are programmed that if you don't lower it to access height before leaving it, the electronics will be "resting" but alert for you coming back to the car so things go into a similar state as "hibernating" a Laptop or PC or putting a DVD player or TV into "standby" mode, this means they will be on line as soon as your key fob is detected but in the mean time they have been consuming a small amount of electricity to stay awake. IIRC it is still mentioned in the owner's manual that if leaving the car for any length of time it should be parked in access mode. If you leave it long enough the air will leak out of the suspension doughnuts and the car will settle down on the bump stops but that might take weeks! I also find that many people don't know that you should lower the car for access - it saves on the expense of side steps......... D3, L322 FFRR's and RRS1 also lowered themselves automatically above 70 mph for high speed stability - very few people knew that and that in the L322 FFRR there was a fixed interval for the rear wiper intermittent wipe that was a bit too long but above 90mph it ran continuously.............. Also with all LR air suspended cars you should lower them while moving slowly, not after you have stopped and never after the parking brake has been applied to avoid damage/ wear to suspension components. Here ends today's lessons! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Sat Apr 29 2017 9:16pm |
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insiorc Member Since: 17 Jul 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 533 |
I also wasn't aware of the access height deep sleep, so thanks for that lesson. My wife is supposed to exercise my RRS while I'm away at work for 4 weeks but she forgets and just drives the P38 which she prefers, so I'll lower it next time when leaving. But I'm not so sure I'm keen to keep lowering the RRS, I've got too many memories rebuilding P38 air compressors...normally most affected in winter at the worst times, I just did mine again a few weeks ago! Are these RRS compressors built better to cope with repeat access height lowering, as if not then fitting side steps could well be cheaper. Unless I'm wrong, I'd prefer leaving the compressor run cycles to catering to the normal levelling adjustments and occasional stretching it's legs so to speak. Of course it won't matter to those more used to changing vehicles every other year, but I've not managed to sell a 'Green Oval' yet... 13MY Range Rover Sport Autobiography SDV6 - mine 14MY Range Rover Evoque Dynamic SD4 Black Pack - wife's 99MY Defender 90 TD5, Soft Top Conversion - my toy, and bairns favourite |
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Sat Apr 29 2017 9:52pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
I think things have moved on a bit since the P38 RR. Land Rover darned nearly built the perfect Range Rover with that car but the technology wasn't as advanced as their dreams and technical reliability certainly, wasn't which was a pity because P38 was a very advanced car and it's suspension system was reckoned by many to have been the best ever designed - it just had to work too hard! I wouldn't be bothered about lots of raising and lowering if you are going away for 4 weeks - if the car is unlikely to be moved then once it is down, it is down! Better to put it there intentionally than to let the air seep out over that time and for it to possibly not settle evenly. Another area where the P38 was way ahead of everyone else was the horrendously complex ventilation system.......... At least with the air springs you could dump the antire system and commit sacrilege by replacing it with coils but there was nothing to replace the complex ventilation system with. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Sun Apr 30 2017 8:10am |
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 8987 |
That's because in the RRS1 (and the D3/4 I guess as they're the same systems) it happens when the vehicle exceeds 100mph for 5 seconds, not at 70mph.
Lowering whilst stopping is probably best, yes. The worst thing is to do it when the gearbox is in park. If anyone wants to know why, park up with the EPB on and the gearbox in neutral. Select access mode from outside (through the window) and watch the front wheels. You'll see the front wheels roll slightly as it lowers. If you do it when it's in park you can hear creaks from outside as bushes are loaded. It's probably not very nice to the drive train either. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders 2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed |
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Sun Apr 30 2017 10:29am |
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syl Member Since: 10 Mar 2016 Location: Somerset Posts: 412 |
It surely can't be that bad if, as stated earlier, MY16 on vehicles lower automatically after turning off the ignition (presumably whilst in park, with the EPB on). |
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Sun Apr 30 2017 11:15am |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
The EPB on my 2015 doesn't come on as soon as the ignition is turned off, there is a delay unless I engage it manually. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Sun Apr 30 2017 11:33am |
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Tyrefitter Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Bridlington East Yorkshire Posts: 3677 |
I always lower mine whilst I'm reversing onto drive so it doesn't put strain on tyres & suspension.
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Sun Apr 30 2017 11:41am |
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philmw Member Since: 18 Aug 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1672 |
So do I but I don't think the L494 splays its wheels like the L320 did. Since I got the SVR we've not had the snow to check. |
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Sun Apr 30 2017 4:50pm |
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