Hi all,
Looking to change my P38 for either a RRS or Disco 3, most likely both having the 4.4 n/a V8.
Spotted this on eBay, http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&...ID=EBAY-GB
Spoke to the trader selling it and have arranged to have a look tomorrow morning. It's had 2 previous owners, the last one being a long time owner. Can have the wheels that's on it or the factory wheels that it came with.
Quick question from any one who knows, is it likely to have the ARC bar system on it, that's one of the main reasons for staying away from a S/C.
Many thanks in advance,
Mark

If there is a fluid container near the air filter (driver side) then I believe it has ARC

Cheers Andy, will have a look in the morning. Not sure if/when it was standard fitting on a n/a V8.
Mark

No purchase.
The hunt goes on

Why. Because it has arc? Or other reason.

4.4 are rare

Hi,
No ARC but that could be a bonus if it goes wrong. Herd to put my finger on it, but seemed un-loved. Some of the top door trims to glass had started to "bubble", the boot trim didn't seem to fit properly, the catch for the centre cubby box was broken. There was rusty stains on the inside of the rear wheels. Looked like bird poo has marked some of the paint on the bonnet. Seemed well specked but to be honest, it's the first one I have looked at, so haven't got a feel for what to expect. Not in a rush, still may go for a s/c,
Mark

I think that you will find any RRS with Dynamic Response (standard on V8's and optional on the 2.7TDv6 at launch) will have ARC, it is part of the air suspension system and Disco3 & 4 have it too as do L322 and L405 FFRR's. There were lots of problems with it on Disco2 and P38 but I haven't read anything on these forums or Disco3 or 4 about it causing problems. Are you sure you are not being paranoid about a non-existing problem on RRS? We don't hear about owners rushing to convert their Discovery3 or 4 or RRS or L322 to coil suspension like you read about with the earlier Discos, later Classic RR's and P38's 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Hi Tim,
We might be at crossed terms. I'm referring to the fancy anti roll bar that's fitted to some sports but not disco's. We use the term ARC "anti roll control" at work and we have some equipment for bleeding it. Uses the same fluid as the pas. I'm not sure they can be serviced should the fail/leak? And are about £1000 for a new one.
Cheers

You mean the dynamic ARB why should having this system put you off, sure they can be a problem. Equally you hear of turbo's, oil pumps going etc on other models so do you stay away from them ? The point is just because the car has these systems on doesn't mean it's going to be a problem you only hear about the problem cars.. 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
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I understand what you are saying, which is why I favour the petrol derivatives. I've not discounted a diesel, but as its a second car, the fuel consumption isn't so important.
I agree, most of the time, people only join forums to have a moan and try and fix a problem. This does put a negative image on the cars in question. I know it's a small percentage that have major failures and if you looked on a forum for every major purchase you were considering buying, you wouldn't buy anything.
So my new hobby is scouring the adds on eBay, autotrader, piston heads etc.

In terms of choosing a 4.4 over 4.2 SC to avoid the ACE/ARC/DR, the fuel saving from the SC would probably counteract the cost of a replacement.  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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I think my ultimate RRS would be a S/C in the Vesuvius orange. I was watching 2 a short while a go but wasn't in a position to consider them then. Fingers crossed one will turn up again. I know it's a bit of a marmite colour but I love it.

Be very careful with Vesuvius Orange. It is a Scintachrome paint making it almost impossible to respray any damage. Some insurers add a huge hike to their quotes for Scintachrome paint jobs. Also many are wrapped, especially the Kahn versions of RRS as it was a "standard" colour for them. Bear in mind the UK only got a tiny number of the 300 built for world wide sales IIRC UK had less than 100 of the 300, they are desirable so fakes are not unknown. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Hi Tim,
Thanks for the info. Orange might be off the shopping list now. Still favour the grey or darker red colour. I do like black but I know from past experience what a nightmare it can be to look after.

I do like grey and red