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timber__wolf



Member Since: 31 Mar 2016
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Early Problem

Well only 2 and a half weeks after taking delivery of my new HSED and I already have an issue. On the way down for a long weekend away on Friday I got a warning message saying that the quality (not quantity) of the AdBlue detected was insufficient and that I had 500 miles (ish) before it wouldn't let the engine start again.

Thankfully we weren't going very far so having got back now, a call to get the thing looked at is due. Just glad we haven't sent the old car back yet. Anyone else had issues with AdBlue quality?

Post #493778 Mon Apr 18 2016 12:49pm
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wilf



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: on the naughty step
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I hesitate to suggest that maybe the AdBlue wasn't full on delivery? Or there is a fault.

If you have taken out a service plan, AdBlue refills are FOC.

In either case, it's a visit to a dealer to investigate, I fear. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Post #493780 Mon Apr 18 2016 12:53pm
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timber__wolf



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Thankfully the lease company insisted on a service plan so no problem there. I think it would be covered under warranty tbf as it's the quality rather than the quantity that is the warning. So my guess would be there's either something wrong with the stuff they used or the sensor is knackered.

Post #493782 Mon Apr 18 2016 12:59pm
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lrdaft



Member Since: 29 Mar 2009
Location: scotland
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Scotland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

I had a similar fault , new software fixed the problem

Post #493846 Mon Apr 18 2016 7:00pm
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timber__wolf



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That's interesting. Will have to see what happens when it goes in

Post #493968 Tue Apr 19 2016 5:44pm
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timber__wolf



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Suspect I'm in for a fight with this. The local dealer told me when I booked it in that they 'can't claim anything back from Land Rover under warranty for anything to do with AdBlue'. Will see what they say on Monday but I certainly won't end up footing the bill for this in the long run Evil or Very Mad

Post #494043 Wed Apr 20 2016 7:38pm
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peanutbob



Member Since: 04 Jul 2011
Location: UK
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2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

Who put the Ad Blue in...?? Who fitted the Ad Blue sensor....?
Land Rover.

However, if one has to refill the Ad Blue outside the dealer network in a year or so, will this be an excuse for some dealers to refute any warranty claim for Ad Blue issues?

Post #494050 Wed Apr 20 2016 8:46pm
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scrumps



Member Since: 01 Aug 2011
Location: Somerset
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If you've bought the service pack you can get free ad-blue top-ups at any Jauar or Landrover dealer for the duration of the service pack by just producing the card.

That should reduce the "wriggle room"!!

Scrumps Somerset - Where the apples do grow and the cider do flow!
2021 Defender 90 D250 HSE in Tasman with white roof.
24MY D300 AB - Verasine Blue - 😀
19MY SDV6 AB - Byron Blue - Gone
17MY D5 SDV6 HSE - Firenze Red - Gone
16MY SDV6 AB -Aruba Silver - Gone
13.5MY SDV6 "HSE Black" - Baltic Blue - Gone
10MY TDV8 HSE Galway Green - Gone
14MY D4 HSE in Scotia Grey - Gone
05 TD5 D90 CSW in Cairns Blue

Post #494052 Wed Apr 20 2016 9:14pm
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Maidenmania



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I had the same problem a few weeks ago, same warning appeared then went off after a couple of days took it tndealers a yay and they topped the ad our up. They reckoned I had an air lock in it. I would like to say it sorted the problem but it's Ben in the dealers for the last two weeks with another problem 2008 Factory HST- Sold
Arrived 2016 HSE carpathian grey

Post #494068 Thu Apr 21 2016 6:54am
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wilf



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I don't like the sound of that statement from the Dealer. Unbelievable.

Your car is 2.5 weeks old FFS! Absolutely ANYTHING that goes wrong is covered by warranty. period.

If they won't/can't fix it, I would threaten to reject it.

Sounds like you are ready for the fight, anyway. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Post #494071 Thu Apr 21 2016 7:40am
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timber__wolf



Member Since: 31 Mar 2016
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Thanks for all the replies. Yep, will see where I get to on Monday but one thing is for sure, I won't ultimately be footing the bill for it!

Post #494131 Fri Apr 22 2016 10:12am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 30 May 2005
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

A little Off Topic ............

Does having an Ad Blue system do anything to help improve fuel consumption or is it purely an additive to reduce the clogging of the DPF? 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #494133 Fri Apr 22 2016 11:01am
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SDV6RRS



Member Since: 08 May 2013
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Tim in Scotland wrote:
A little Off Topic ............

Does having an Ad Blue system do anything to help improve fuel consumption or is it purely an additive to reduce the clogging of the DPF?


Neither -- It's to reduce NOx emissions. Its a Urea solution that is injected into the exhaust and it combines with NOx (Nitrogen Oxides) to form Ammonia & CO2

More CO2, but less noxious NOx

(Ironically I saw a report in the FT this morning that the RRS [presumably without Ad-blue] tested by the government in real-world conditions was off the scale in terms of NOx emission) 2014 MY RRS HSE Dynamic
2000 Porsche Boxster S
2004 BMW X5 (Gone)

Post #494141 Fri Apr 22 2016 12:30pm
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nigel52



Member Since: 20 Nov 2013
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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Tim in Scotland wrote:
A little Off Topic ............

Does having an Ad Blue system do anything to help improve fuel consumption or is it purely an additive to reduce the clogging of the DPF?


Most Euro 6 cars achieve the emission requirement by adding Ad Blue. Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

Post #494201 Fri Apr 22 2016 8:43pm
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R444SPT



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It does reduce the bed bracket for a 4.4 my 2015 4.4 was 229 and £490 on a normal year, my 2016 4.4 is 219 and only £290 per annum ved.

£200 a year saving for lugging around up to 20litres of pi55 which have others have said landrover will top up for free with a service plan.

I'm sure there is a line there somewhere... Whistle Thumbs Up

Post #494248 Sat Apr 23 2016 10:29am
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