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redamo



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Tonga Green
ARB bushes or whole arm replacement?

One dealer advised changing the ARB bushes, the other said it's better to replace the whole arms as the cost is almost the same? Any thoughts?

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Whole arm. That way you know ghat the ball. Joint is good as we'll instead ofnhaving tlmtwke it off again and getmit changed in another few months.
You'll pay for labour to change the bushes, so as you've been told, cost difference is negligible. Bodsys Brake Bible
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££££ss, ballpark figures please boys ?? ,think mine may be on there way also Big Cry 2007, HSE, Cairnes Blue, Factory tints, Love it !!!

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Hi, just had the front anti roll bar bushes done on mine last week by my local indie. He recommended that the bolts and brackets are replaced at the same time. All in, £223. Sorted out the squeaking suspension problem and the knocking I could feel under the front footwell and drives like a different motor now. 2008 Supercharged Stornaway Grey, 22inch black Stormers
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Hi, that seems a fair price for the job from what i can gather Thumbs Up 2007, HSE, Cairnes Blue, Factory tints, Love it !!!

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Hold on...what are we talking about here? ARBs or wishbones? Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Post #478897 Thu Nov 05 2015 9:38am
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redamo



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ARB

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Paddi



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In that case one of those dealers might be trying to take you for a mug. Front ARB bushes are about £32 the pair and take a a fair bit of labour to fit so say £250 total at Main dealer rates.

The rear bushes can be fitted in about an hour or so.

The front is a bit different. The whole front anti-roll bar (which on the TDV8 is the part of the Active Roll Control system and is a complex bit of kit with two rams) costs North of £1k alone and the body has to be lifted to fit it so mucho mucho labour hours and you still need new bushes and caps to add to that .

Added to which when the dealers lift the body off they usually b*gg*r up loads of other things like your steering column and wiring. So then you'll be back at the dealers every other week. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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redamo



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Ok, I'm confused, perhaps my technical understanding of how the RRS is configured is lacking.

So we have the suspension with the arms, and then ARB system has it's own arms or are they part of the same system? Perhaps a diagram would help if anyone has one.

Cheers!

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Paddi wrote:
The front is a bit different. The whole front anti-roll bar (which on the TDV8 is the part of the Active Roll Control system and is a complex bit of kit with two rams) costs North of £1k alone and the body has to be lifted to fit it so mucho mucho labour hours and you still need new bushes and caps to add to that .


The body doesn't need lifted to fit the front ARC bar
A new bar also comes with new bushes and clamps

But I am also confused. Are we discussing ARBs or wishbones?

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Edited my post to use anti-roll bar instead of 'arm'

Generally the term arm is used only to refer to the lower suspension arms. Have a look on advanced factors website as it has diagrams of the suspension components:

http://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/front-ant...-294-c.asp

http://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/front-low...-141-c.asp 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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redamo



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OK, so we have the ARB depicted in red and the bushes that connect to the lower arm. So, if I understood correctly, the dealer said to replace the lower arms (underneath the ARB) together with the bushes.

What Paddi was saying is that this should be very expensive and potentially difficult and prone to introducing future issues.

Am I correct or have I missed/missinterpreted anything?

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redamo



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To add on the above, I've been quoted £1122 to replace BOTH lower arms (front suspension).

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redamo wrote:


OK, so we have the ARB depicted in red and the bushes that connect to the lower arm. So, if I understood correctly, the dealer said to replace the lower arms (underneath the ARB) together with the bushes.

What Paddi was saying is that this should be very expensive and potentially difficult and prone to introducing future issues.

Am I correct or have I missed/missinterpreted anything?


Not quite. Paddi was saying that replacement of the ACE/DR roll bar is expensive. Thumbs Up

Replacement of the FL wishbones is not hugely expensive (but they generally need cutting out), and should be far less than you've been quoted. You will need a full alignment afterwards. My advice is to find a good indy instead... Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Paddi



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Disco_Mikey wrote:

The body doesn't need lifted to fit the front ARC bar
A new bar also comes with new bushes and clamps

But I am also confused. Are we discussing ARBs or wishbones?


I'm a doughnut - getting my facts mixed up. Don't listen to me listen to DM - he the man! 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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