It is odd though that every new model that LR releases starts out great until we have a few on the road and then battery issues rear their ugly head. It happened in 2010 when the facelifted FFRR came out, then with Freelander2's then in 2011 Evoques and early L40's were plagued with rapidly draining batteries and management system issues and now RRS2......... how long before DiscoSport suffers similar? Also odd that you rarely hear of a Disco4 having these problems so what did they get right on them? Do the system designers not learn or are they not aware of the issues that customers are having with their very expensive cars? 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Tim,

I will let you know how the Disco Sport manages with the Island's weather, LRA phoned this morning and said one should be delivered to the house 4pm today.

One thing that does work and really impressed was the InControl Secure, at 6am this morning I got a call asking if I knew where the car was as they knew it was not at my address and had been loaded on to a trailer and moved 10 minutes ago. At least something works.

Tony 2018 MY19 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, Ebony/Ivory, Sliding pano, Adaptive cruise, Black wheels. Arrived 3rd September 2018
2015 MY16 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, ebony/cirrus, sliding pano, cameras, black wheels - Arrived 1 October 2015

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In Control.......... yes they email me periodically to ask why my car hasn't moved for weeks on end and when will it next be moved? Could I advise them as they need to do a diagnostic check that normally we don't know about because it is done when the car is in motion and needs the engine running. I then contact my brother and ask him to give the car a run but to let the InControl Centre know the day before. When LRA came to cart away my last Evoque which was one of the first cars with Incontrol my parents got a phone call to say I wasn't answering (I was in mid Atlantic Ocean) my phone and di they that my Evoque had been loaded onto a flatbed and was on the move............. No how would they know it was a flatbed but also why did the LRA tech not put the sysytem into recovery/service mode, they probably all know about InControl Secure by now but back when it was new they weren't aware, same with the dealership who got the car in to work on after another problem, they had a visit from the Police to answer a car out from the car that it was being tampered with but it wasn in the service bay and the tech hadn't inhibited the system for servicing/ repair work 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Big Brother is Watching - George Orwell would be proud of InControl although LR's roll out was a bit later than 1984.

About 30 mins ago my InControl App recorded the RRS being in Inverness at the Dealers, first time I have got an updated location since yesterday afternoon. Assume they have brought it back to life, I'll await the phone call with the reason for its demise.

Tony 2018 MY19 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, Ebony/Ivory, Sliding pano, Adaptive cruise, Black wheels. Arrived 3rd September 2018
2015 MY16 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, ebony/cirrus, sliding pano, cameras, black wheels - Arrived 1 October 2015

Well RRS at the dealers, arrived on a recovery truck and as luck would have it - or not - it started and they drove it into the workshop. However it has thrown up a few fault codes which they are working through but unless they come up with a definative cause and fix it I am constantly going to worry it will let me down again.

Meanwhile, on schedule this afternoon, courtesy of LRA a car hire company delivered to my home a brand new high spec Mitsubishi Shogun. Bit of a tractor after the RRS, like a larger, very solid well built Freelander 1. Has all the kit I have on the RRS plus an 850w audio system, have not found sat nav yet but I am sure its there somewhere. Bottom line is the list price (before discount) is £34,300 and it comes with a 5 year warantee and I doubt it will go wrong anyway. Take note LR. 2018 MY19 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, Ebony/Ivory, Sliding pano, Adaptive cruise, Black wheels. Arrived 3rd September 2018
2015 MY16 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, ebony/cirrus, sliding pano, cameras, black wheels - Arrived 1 October 2015

Be interested in your feedback on the Mitsibushi after a few days to see if the RRS2 warrants the price difference. Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

We had a brand new shogun in 2005 as the land rover dealer insulted us with a trade in price for our Range Rover. On paper the shogun is great it had all the extras we wanted but in real life it was horrible, it just won't give you the feel a Range Rover does . It might be more reliable but none of us have had to push our cars to the garage it's just an inconvenience to have your pride and joy not work fully.
Not a bit of doubt in my mind I would still keep a Rangerover over any shogun/bmw/jeep/merc /Audi .Having said that I would change some of the staff in some of the dealers for cardboard cut outs and automated self service touch screens .

Shogun is good old fashioned Japanese industrial engineering. I regularly drive one in the Kimberly region of Western Australia with 70% of my driving on heavily corrugated, sometimes wet, deep sand dirt roads.

The Shogun is unstoppable with some mild off-road tyres on it. The Defender would be fine but the RRS would not cope with the corrugations in my opinion. The Shogun isn't sophisticated but it's comfortable and very tough.

RRS/D3 and FFRR's suspension compressor is a well known weak link for corrugated outback roads, they overheat and give up so no suspension! Sometimes simple coil suspension is better! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

I must be old , but i remember when the Shoguns where all in fashion.  SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

Tim in Scotland wrote:

Sometimes simple coil suspension is better!

And sometimes springs break...

Every system has its weak points; most of the time, the air suspension on the 'big' LRs is better than springs on a Defender. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tim in Scotland wrote:

RRS/D3 and FFRR's suspension compressor is a well known weak link for corrugated outback roads, they overheat and give up so no suspension! Sometimes simple coil suspension is better!

I agree with Gordon.. The compressor is not affected by corrugations. The one on my D3 failed a few months after crossing the Simpson Desert with its 1000+ dunes due to the silly speed limit at offroad height. I have now fitted Llams on my D4 and don't have that problem anymore. Crossed Simpson again without having to raise and lower the suspension all the time..


 RRS P460e
1983 2 door Range Rover ARB Bar X9000 winch ARB Rear Bar now semi retired.
Many big trips done in this one.
1982 Rangerover nearly restored.
22 Defender D250 with lots of stuff for outback touring
Nice 2013 Freelander TD4 manual (for daughter to learn on) with much better stereo compared with previous SD4 SE with Meridian which sounded bad!
2013 Land Rover Defender ute.

0310/Tony,

Any news yet? Tim Peak will be getting relieved on the ISS soon, surely you'll get your car back before then!!!!

Hoping for the best for you.

Old Jock 2018 (MY19) Jaguar F-Pace R-Sport 300PS Petrol in Caesium Blue with many bells and whistles.
2015 RRS HSE SDV6 Firenze Red with Santorini Panoramic Glass Roof, gone but not forgotten.

Hi Jock,

Yes, they may well even land on Mars before its fixed!

Three weeks and two days and its still with the dealer. LR tech think they know the problem and the dealer will need to change two modules and run some tests but I suspect LR tech are clutching at straws and basically havent a clue.

I think LR and the dealer are panicing that it may go wrong again within 6 months and the new consumer laws will come into play - replacement car or money back. Does anyone know how long it needs to be with the dealer with the same fault unfixed before I can start the process to reject?

Don't expect to get it back this week, in the mean time the Shogun is entertaining and proving I could have got something that will do the same job for less than half the money. That would have been a new Shogun and a year old F Type for the same money as the RRS.

I will be expecting a generous 'good will consideration' from LR otherwise I may well publish a full comparison report between the two vehicles.

Tony 2018 MY19 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, Ebony/Ivory, Sliding pano, Adaptive cruise, Black wheels. Arrived 3rd September 2018
2015 MY16 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, ebony/cirrus, sliding pano, cameras, black wheels - Arrived 1 October 2015