With the recent bad press for diesel vehicles one wonders what developments the likes of JLR are thinking about for future Range Rovers.

My wife has changed her car and we have taken a Ford Fiesta Titanium with the three cylinder 900cc eco boost 125PS engine. To say we were impressed with the performance of the engine would be an understatement. 0-60 9.4 secs, 122 MPH Actually the acceleration seems faster than that. Free road tax. Compensates for my £490 road tax.

The point is what could be done with this technology on a RRS with a petrol engine? Take a 2 litre engine supercharged with 250-300PS or more. Yes I know torque will be an issue but that is what a bright young techie needs to crack. Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

3.0 Supercharged V6 petrol, circa 300bhp currently used in the Jag, and overseas LR models

The petrol Ingenium engine is still a good year away yet, but offers high output, small capacity engines, similar to the Ecoboost

What would be the likely mpg needs to be circa mid 30s Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

nigel52 wrote:

Take a 2 litre engine supercharged with 250-300PS or more. Yes I know torque will be an issue but that is what a bright young techie needs to crack.

According to Auto-Express (I never believe a word they print!) claims that Disco5 will be launched with the 2.0l Igneium engine. With scepticism about diesel emissions figures by the general public I think Land Rover will have to think PDQ about putting the V6 S/C petrol engine already fitted to export models into UK and European cars, Auto-Express says it is going into Disco5 too! Maybe there will be some new engines for 2016.MY in March? 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Over reaction.

Personally impressed with these new Eco boost engines. 2017/2018 I bet we see them in the RRS AS PART OF A HYBRID OPTION. Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

The thing is you get these small engines working harder and harder putting out these great outputs, but how long will they last before they need a rebuild etc. 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
2009 TDCi 90 current
2018 Discovery 5 HSE lux current
1994 Dakar current

One would assume it may be dependant on how often you use the extremes of its performance

The current range of large engines aren't exactly paragons of reliability. The last bomb-proof engine LR used was probably the 2.25 petrol (and that was intended to be a diesel too I believe). It wasn't exactly "high performance" though.

A small high performance engine can be long lived if the accountants don't stick their oars in to it. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Yep, I think accountants are responsible for the majority of flaws we have to suffer.  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Auto HSE Zambezi Silver

I guess I'll stick with my totally inefficient gas, guzzling 500bhp 5.0L S/C for the time being.

Cheers
Col

nice one col ,think il do the same

Also one could make an argument for not changing now staying with my TDV6 and waiting to see what comes along. The depreciation on a 2011 RRS will be far less than buying new now and in three years time with new petrol engine on line seeing a huge depreciation in a diesel RRS.

OK lots of suppositions made but perhaps worth considering. Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

I realise the RRS2 has shed some weight and has a result also a couple of seconds off the 0-60 but the DS I'm driving round in at moment is as quick as MY13 Black Edition I had previously despite losing 2 cylinders and a 1000cc but feels just as big - so I'd say that's good progress

Admittedly I'm not seeing anywhere nr the 53 combined mpg but around 40 is a big improvement on around 30  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!