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philmw Member Since: 18 Aug 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1672 |
Thank you for that Mark.
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Fri Jul 24 2015 6:26am |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
Mark the logistics of shipping 20 or so 40ft contianer loads of alloy wheels from Taiwan to the UK is nothing. There are just about daily sailings between Koashiung and Europe and the cost per container for freight is seriously depressed at the moment so ballpark would be around $700 to $1000 a unit................ plus customs fees on landing in the UK. Peanuts really when you think of the cost of the ship, the cost of the container and the cost of everything else to get a container from Asia to Europe. It probably costs more to get them from Felixstowe or Southampton to Solihull than it does to get them from Taiwan to a UK port, crazy but such is life!
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Fri Jul 24 2015 11:38am |
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Mark_N Member Since: 09 Aug 2013 Location: London Posts: 1102 |
Tim, you are of course vastly more experienced than me in this area - most of my international "logistics" is limited to shipping a dozen or so cases of wine from Tuscany and there's never a chance of my wine cellar running dry. However, ball park, that's a 40ft container load of wheels a day for Solihull production and you don't need a very big SNAFU for production to grind to a halt, not just wheels but all the thousands of other components as well. The whole just-in-time ethos relies on minimal buffer stocks but there is a trade-off between cost and continuity of production. Rather them than me!
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Fri Jul 24 2015 12:26pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
These days of super slow steaming it takes about 25 days Mark. We used to carry hundreds of containers every sailing for Toyoya and Honda when I was on the Japanese service ships, we had a timeframe to be berthed in Southampton and get them discharged so they could be on the train or trucks to the factory - if there were to be any delays on passage after leaving Suez then we always got speeded up crossing the Med to get miles in hand. The cost of the extra fuel burned was way less than the compensation to be paid to Honda or Toyota if we missed the tide at Southampton! Even the terminal was locked into the agreement and they had to ensure that they had the units off the ship and through the container park/ Customs clearance and on the road to Swindon within something like 3 hours of them being discharged from the ship. Just in time delivery still happens - even on my current ship. We carry hundreds of container loads of bananas from Costa Rica and Belize to Tilbury - although they are shipped by one of the big name producers frequently they are discharged and ready for the Monday morning banana auctions in London, miss the tide for Tilbury and the bananas miss the auctions, big money at stake! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Fri Jul 24 2015 3:32pm |
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philmw Member Since: 18 Aug 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1672 |
This is the reason why LJR use a third party as their logistics company, and why orders need to be confirmed and are immovable one month before build. If the line has to be stopped the supplier gets charged per minute (+ extra). With a car emerging once every 1.5 minutes, you can imagine what the cost is. |
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Fri Jul 24 2015 3:47pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
When JLR redeveloped Halewood they encouraged their suppliers to build factories around the car plant - less likelihood of delays on the motorways if the parts only have to get there from around the other side of the plant. I know that the seat makers and dashboard makers are onsite there. It used to be at Solihull that the employees sports ground had to double up as helipads for when there was a smash on the motorways around Brum, to keep the factory moving suppliers helicoptered in parts so the line didn't stop! Having said that, it is amazing where some of the smaller components travel from to become part of the car - wiper blades come from Mexico or Italy frequently, on my Evoque (and probably Mark's one as well) there were lots of parts stamped Volvo, Made in China! The more frequently you guys buy new Land Rover, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Jaguar cars the longer I have a job driving the ships that bring the parts in from overseas! Only another two years to go and then I don't have to worry about getting wiper blades or washer water pumps or Bananas or Pineapples back to the UK "Just in Time" 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Fri Jul 24 2015 7:58pm |
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kljw Member Since: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 117 |
Hi
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Sat Jul 25 2015 12:07pm |
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philmw Member Since: 18 Aug 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 1672 |
Standard 22s are still 275. The SVRs 22s are wider, being 295, hence requiring the increased offset and spats. |
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Sat Jul 25 2015 1:23pm |
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DaveW Member Since: 14 Nov 2013 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 283 |
Standard 22" rims are 9.5J whereas the SVR rims are 10J with a different offset
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Wed Jul 29 2015 11:30am |
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