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barneyrubble



Member Since: 17 Nov 2013
Location: Sidcup
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Remaps - Land rover detection

Hi - I was wondering if anyone can tell me if dealers ever check for remaps? There seems to be quite a few people who have had them and I wondered if anyone has ever been refused warranty work due to a remap.

I've seen the BAS device - can that be detedted in any way? Is there a flash count on these cars that records the fact that its been flashed and then gone back to standard?

Hoping to buy a 3.6HSE on Monday with a view to mapping it.

Many thanks in advance.

Post #419501 Fri Mar 28 2014 9:30am
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Disco_Mikey



Member Since: 08 Apr 2012
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HSE Santorini Black

There is a flash limit built into the ECU's, but due to the way the BAS (and other tuners) work, they do not add to the flash count

IIRC, it does save a re-programming date

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BBS SPY
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Cyprus 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Bali Blue

In the days of the Diesel TD5 and V8 Motronic ECU's there indeed used to be an additive aspect of re programming ECU's known as a programming record that the Dealer equipment filled in and contained all the information about the data that was last programmed in, ie assembly numbers etc and the date it was programmed.

This had space limitations allowing only about 30 new records for a TD5 and 19 for a V8 Motronic.

But as DM states you could reflash the data in these without adding a new programming record.

The dealer equipment had no ability to actually read the data and only ever went by what the last record said was programmed in.

Moving forward to modern CAN BUS type engine managements, there is no longer any programming record, count or realistic limitation on the nuber of times an ECU can be reflashed, and the current assembly number is derived from the data itself. of course remaps provide the same assembly numbers as standard.

Given that i get to see on a very low level, exactly what access the dealers equipment has and makes to all ECU's, i can tell you that there is no way that any dealer with their standard equipment could tell a vehicle has been remapped.

I am a staunch supporter of Remaps and especially BAS ones.

Here is a picture of my own RRS getting Remapped on BAS's 4x4 rolling road.



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Post #419761 Sun Mar 30 2014 6:20pm
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JasM



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Scotland 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

That's a very nice looking RRS. Thumbs Up 2014 L405 SDV8 RR Autobiography Cool

2012 RRS SDV6 HSE -Orkney Grey with A/B bodykit - Now Gone Sad
2007 RRS TDV6 HSE - Zermatt Silver - Gone

Post #419763 Sun Mar 30 2014 6:25pm
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Member Since: 20 Oct 2008
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Cyprus 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Bali Blue

Thanks JasM

It had quite a journey after then
http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic98164-15.html

but as you see, the Bali Blue colour just comes into its own in the Cyprus sun

Click image to enlarge


I have already done a coulple of Mods to it and have more planned Wink

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