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muddywheels
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L405 FFRR 3.0 TDV6 Vogue loan car

Currently driving one of these courtesy of my dealer Whistle

Having driven the L322 FFRR 4.4 TDV8 Vogue last year I am a bit disappointed Shocked

The old V8 sounded incredible and pulled like a rocket but the V6 feels a bit underpowered Confused

The ride is fantastic but still leans a bit on the corners - not as much as the L322 but more than the sport Wink

Inside the panoramic roof and space are amazing. Outside the electric towbar and deployable steps are Cool

Tried to get it in the garage but stuck out about a foot compared to the sport - it is massive but does not feel it when driving Bow down

Only driven home but got 32 mpg compared to 27 mpg same run in MY13 RRS this morning Sad

Price tag is £85000 on the one I have but can not see point of spending £30000 more than the black edition I just got Thumbs Up

Been raining but will try to post some pics soon Bow down Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

On paper the FF is nearly a second quicker to 60 Shocked but also somewhat lighter, bigger cars always seem slower but its probably down to how it delivers the power, much smoother than the sport, its all to do with how its mapped and geared. Mpg on your motor will improve the more miles you put on it, if you ever get it back. Wink But i think i'd of driven a few more miles before i'd of commented and compared it to the sport. Bare in mind they are two completely different vehicles, one is for the old man and the other is for the young man. Laughing Thumbs Up

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muddywheels
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Point taken Embarassed Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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Ady 555 wrote:
..............Bare in mind they are two completely different vehicles, one is for the old man and the other is for the young man. Laughing Thumbs Up


So, when you getting a FFRR then Ady Whistle Rolling with laughter ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
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My MY13 spot now regularly is at 31mpg and runs will take it to 33mpg...so wait until you break it in Wink

Im still not a fan of the new FFRR, its not bad but i wouldnt say i love it - there was one on the drive a few hours ago - a lot depends on the specs, the silly chrome makes it worse in my opinion remove that and it looks better...not great mind Mike

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muddywheels
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Beancounter_74 wrote:
Ady 555 wrote:
..............Bare in mind they are two completely different vehicles, one is for the old man and the other is for the young man. Laughing Thumbs Up


So, when you getting a FFRR then Ady Whistle Rolling with laughter


Rolling with laughter

Mike - I agree on the chrome and I would like the door fins removed too Thumbs Up

Apart from that if I had the money I would be buying the TDV8 version even though I have never driven it but going off the TDV6 it must be miles better than last years model and I loved that Bow down Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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I agree - those fins (to mirror the outgoing model's air intakes) could go and the front could be made a bit more classy...and i dont mean evoque like Exclamation Exclamation - the lines are fine Mike

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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Before I drove my friend's RRS Black t'other day, I thought that the FFRR was the one to have. Having driven his (with less than 2k miles on it) I was impressed by how much better it felt compared to my 08 RRS. It felt better than I remembered his previous facelift-TDV6 had done too. The SDV6 / 8 speed gearbox combination was great although it did just feel a little bit lacking when overtaking. The ride was much firmer but not hard and suggests that mine (at 65k miles) might need new dampers. The brakes were better with much more bite on initial application - something I like.

I do still think the FFRR is fabulous, however, and would still look at one in a few years - second hand sadly because £80k+ is too much to justify on a vehicle (lottery win notwithstanding of course!). The FFRR we drove at Luton Hoo recently just felt imperious on the track and obstacles where the others had let you know that the suspension was working hard beneath you.

I just hope the newer models have increased reliability along with their increased price tags... 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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muddywheels
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
......I just hope the newer models have increased reliability along with their increased price tags...


Here's hoping Thumbs Up Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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muddywheels
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Pics as promised Thumbs Up

Just been in to town and parked in a car park - this is massive - could not open doors and hung over front of box Shocked

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 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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Beancounter_74 wrote:
Ady 555 wrote:
..............Bare in mind they are two completely different vehicles, one is for the old man and the other is for the young man. Laughing Thumbs Up


So, when you getting a FFRR then Ady Whistle Rolling with laughter


Shocked Mr. Green Whistle Wink

The way L/R are going with its reliability pricing and super customer service Whistle i will not be buying another Range Rover, Big Cry They don't deserve my hard earned cash. Never been a fan of the FFRR although they do look good on the road Smile The new RRS looks too much like the Evoque which is not for me either. Whistle I certainly wouldn't pay what L/R are now asking for an equivalent spec to mine Shocked

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Thats where i am as you know Ady.

ignoring liking or not the new RRS (and its not earth shatteringly brilliant like these sports have been), there is no way im going to waste any more cash for less or even more for the same spec, its just a waste.

Even if i had the cash to waste on a FFRR, they are nice, but i like them less.

So far ive been happy with the customer service etc - but its going to be changed soon, which really leaves me with few options Mike

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muddywheels
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mse wrote:
.....So far ive been happy with the customer service etc - but its going to be changed soon, which really leaves me with few options


It cant get any worse Shocked

After 2 days driving this beast I agree its not brilliant - it still has too much body roll compared to the sport and parking it is a nightmare - you need a disabled badge so I would have to take my Father in law everywhere but he finds it hard to get in due to lowered roof compared to old model Embarassed

That said if I won the lottery the TDV8 would be my first purchase Whistle

The space inside is immense - 20ish year old daughter and 2 big teenage lads in the back look like characters out of the Hobbit - downside the boot doesn't look as big as the old model due to lower roof and rear door slope Confused

It does look like a luxury car inside but the light leather would be a no for me - it is full of marks already Sad Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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muddywheels wrote:

The space inside is immense - 20ish year old daughter and 2 big teenage lads in the back look like characters out of the Hobbit........

........- it is full of marks already Sad



That just sounds so wrong Rolling with laughter

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muddywheels
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Shocked

The marks were on when I got it and just mean they look small in the back because of the space Rolling Eyes

Rolling with laughter Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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