When will they learn

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And an American company as well!!! Now
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This is going to cost lives! Transferring from navy to civilian pilots (albeit the same guys) will see them working under CAA rules, which means if the wind is too high they ain't going up north to rescue someone!
I know a couple of guys who work in S&R, and they are not looking forward to changing copters, as the old ones can be fixed in the air with whatever is lying around, these newer ones are all fly by wire
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It's outsourced rather than privatised. A subtle but important difference - there will be SLAs and penalty clauses for failure to provide the service. I doubt there will be much change in the effectiveness of the service. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Bristow are actually a really good company and the S92 are much better than the old sea kings.

Americans in helicopters!!! they wont have guns will they??? Friendly fire comes to mind  Current Volvo XC90 R Design T8
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is it going to be a case of winching down the crew armed with his back board, first aid kit and a mobile card payment machine Pay up or i fly off home

[quote]I know a couple of guys who work in S&R, and they are not looking forward to changing copters, as the old ones can be fixed in the air with whatever is lying around, these newer ones are all fly by wire [/quote]

What utter rubbish Cod. The S-92 is not fly by wire. The old Sea Kings cannot be fixed in the air with whatever is lying around. The Sea King is 1950s technology. If that's what the guys you know are telling you then more fool you for listening to stories with no credibility.

Bristow was started by Alan Bristow in 1953. It was (and much of it still is) a British company employing British pilots and crew as well as engineers. It is a first class company. It was acquired by US interests in 1996 and is now on the NYSE. Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
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Do we smell a bit of.........




Being told here.

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Bristow is a British company that was taken over by an American company, doesn't mean that it will be operating to American rules.............. They are also very highly repsected in the North Sea and have vast experience of carrying out search and rescue there, and being rescued on a couple of occassions! BBC is getting very good at scare mongering. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Yes Ady we do, and it mixed in with the smell of cod! The BBC's "expert" is absolutely 180 degrees removed from fact. Sky is half credible....just.

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BKHK,
i was being flippant with my comments, you my friend are being just a W**k!

yes the seaking is old tech, but when you are flying at 500ft and something goes wrong , it is easier to fix than some of the new stuff. (just like anyone can repair a ford escort at the side of the road, but not a Range Rover!) how many fatal crashes do you hear about with seakings? Bristows helecopters on the other hand are littered about the north sea MY10 TDV6 SE (debadged ), Santorini Black, Flappy paddles, Privacy Glass, 20" Stormers, Mudflaps!

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I trust the RAF - ive never understood why the RAF and Navy and costguard operated separately and wants joint under the RAF.

I've heard about this and followed it for a while. For me - any air operations should be done through the RAF, the RAF should be running SAR activities - not the government palming it out in any way...why do this is, now its gone its gone for ever.

The real way we save money in the UK is not to stop doing things or ditching our services - its about bringing things together, fundamental redesign thinking, collaborations etc so there isnt the isolation and level of independent bureaucracy.. we spend £1 to save 50p but dont fix the issue...its like gaffa taping over gaffa tape covering a hole and then throwing away or bypassing the hole...fixing it would have been soooo much easier and you would still have it.

As for the Sea King - if it isnt broke, dont fix it...yes the new helicopters are impressive beast and yes the RAF should have them, but the sea king is still the daddy - simple, reliable, flexible and cheap.

BBC v Sky - BBC news any day of the week. Mike

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Cod, just name one thing that can be "fixed" in a Sea King at 500' over the water that could not be "fixed" in a newer generation S-92 certified and tested to the latest FAR / JAR Part 29 amendment. When was the last Bristow crash in the North Sea? Stop name calling and admit when you are incorrect. Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
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Current- 2024 RRS P400 SE Dynamic