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norlan



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Scotland 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HST Stornoway Grey
Tom Tom and Smart Key don't mix

I have a pretty weird problem with the relationship between my Tom Tom and the smart key on my 2010 TDV6. If I have the smart key anywhere close to where the Tom Tom is plugged in via the front power supply (cigar lighter) I get a smart key not found warning and the car won't start. If I unplug the Tom Tom then all is OK and I can plug the Tom Tom back in once the car is started. Has anyone had anything similar happen.

Post #390837 Sat Aug 03 2013 10:06pm
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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Was at a horse trials yesterday and three RRS were recovered by Rescue. The car park had power lines running over the field and wouldn't start. Once towed to the gate and out from under the overhead lines, they all started. My normal key worked fine Thumbs Up so fair assumption is that obviously smart keys are easily upset by electric current. Another own goal by LR. Whistle 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
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chilly



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dont worry its not just lr smart keys at work in iraq we had landcrusiers that we couldn't start of we were close to the gate of the camp due to electronic countermeasures on the perimeter 50 yards down the road no problems and had the same problems at a power station only the dead truely know peace,
Bootneck its not a job its a way of life!

Post #390862 Sun Aug 04 2013 10:44am
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codfather



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Not had that problem with my Tom Tom (710), which I use on long distances as a camera detector, but sometimes my car won't start or even light up the dashboard outside a friends house, I am sure there is a mobile phone mast nearby which causes interference
Cheers
Dave MY10 TDV6 SE (debadged Wink ), Santorini Black, Flappy paddles, Privacy Glass, 20" Stormers, Mudflaps!

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Post #390904 Sun Aug 04 2013 9:32pm
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mlines



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The Tom-Tom is interfering with the signal from the key, as will the power lines etc.

It is either directly interfering (transmitting on the same radio channel) or generating strong interference which is de-sensitising the key system.

if this is the case I believe you can hold the key fob up to the bottom of the steering column plastic cover and this should get around the issue. 2016 RRS 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography Dynamic in Montalcino Red and Stealth Kit

Post #390935 Mon Aug 05 2013 10:05am
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norlan



Member Since: 21 Jun 2011
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The workaround I use is just to disconnect the Tom Tom from the power source, start the car and reconnect the Tom Tom or move the key further away from the power source for the Tom Tom and then start the car. Thanks for the interesting comments though. I have to say it was a bit of a shock when on the first morning I had the car it wouldn't start until I figured out it was connected to the Tom Tom. Also if the built in Sat Nav didn't keep trying to put me on magical mystery tours to get from A to B via X, Y and Z I wouldn't need the Tom Tom Very Happy

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mlines



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I find the 2012 version of the RRS sat nav far better than the 2007 version.

I even found out today that the 2012 version learns your (bad) habits.

I regularly travel from Reading to Norwich, I know the route well but I always use the sat nav so that it gives me traffic information and "time to destination", however as I know the way I ignore the route it offers.

About half way I divert from the route to a cafe for breakfast, and I do this everytime and its about a quarter of a mile off-route.

I noticed this morning that the sat-nav has now, without prompting, included the cafe as a waypoint on the route and directs me straight there, spooky! 2016 RRS 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography Dynamic in Montalcino Red and Stealth Kit

Post #391037 Tue Aug 06 2013 10:26am
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Beancounter_74



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Yes, there are a few routes that I do regularly that I know better Whistle (going to the inlaws for instance) and I noticed that it's learnt the routes that I have taken.
I like you use the satnav for traffic and time to destination. ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it Banging Head )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
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sparky8181



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Technology at its best Banging Head

Maybe they should call it the "not so smart key" Laughing

Post #391046 Tue Aug 06 2013 12:07pm
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flydive



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Beancounter_74 wrote:
(going to the inlaws for instance)


Guess you take the "longer and slower" route option Mr. Green '08 RRS TDV8
I converted my diesel RRS to run on an environmentally friendly mixture of caribou fat and baby seals oil

Post #391064 Tue Aug 06 2013 2:34pm
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Beancounter_74



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Thumbs Up Yup, I try and find as many traffic jams as possible Laughing ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it Banging Head )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

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mse



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Yes the 2012 on system learns routes, has easy route can adjust for traffic etc.

The key problem isnt new - Discovery keyfobs have had this problem in certain areas for years...the sweet spot is under the steering wheel as mentioned...how weak is your battery? Mike

2014 Facelift Discovery

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