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Taximan2011



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Converting 1995 p38 ... Anyone help with answers

New range rover owner.
I have bought a 1995 4.5 hse p38 I wish to change the front to look like the range rover sport can anyone advise what year and models I need as doner for correct parts to fit. Someone has tried to facelift mine prior to purchase and failed the lights don't meet the wings on the sides and the bonnet won't shut because grill is in the way they've used existing p38 bonnet and bumper.
I know this can be done as I saw a 1986 model that had been changed but the owner bought it like that so couldn't help me

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Hi Taximan, I'm not an expert, but i'm sure one will be along soon.

My first thought is that the model you are looking for is 2005 to 2009, I can't see it being the later model cars.

My second thought is to post the same question on a Range Rover forum rather than a RRS forum.

My third thought is the RRS is based on the D3, maybe headlights and grill from a later model Range Rover will fit better than Sport parts.

Good Luck with the project RRS '05 4.4 Bonatti Gray Black Leather
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Personally,I'd fix what you have and leave it with the original shape. Neutral ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
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Re: Converting 1995 p38 ... Anyone help with answers

Taximan2011 wrote:
New range rover owner.
I have bought a 1995 4.5 hse p38 I wish to change the front to look like the range rover sport can anyone advise what year and models I need as doner for correct parts to fit. Someone has tried to facelift mine prior to purchase and failed the lights don't meet the wings on the sides and the bonnet won't shut because grill is in the way they've used existing p38 bonnet and bumper.
I know this can be done as I saw a 1986 model that had been changed but the owner bought it like that so couldn't help me

Personally i would leave it as it is and save up for a proper RRS, What you are wanting to do has been done many times before and every example ive seen has looked horrendious Shocked You will only become a laughing stock of a forum which is not good, ask a few of our members on here Laughing No i won't name them, not this time Laughing But they know who they are don't they Bc & awd Thumbs Up

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Never seen one of these attempted that looked anything other than daft. It comes across as someone who wants a Sport but can't afford one - which is daft because the bottom of the Sport market isn't much more than the cost of buying a FFRR and doing a conversion on it. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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SRE



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Never heard of a 4.5 HSE In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

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Ady 555
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Perhaps it used to be a 4.6 but when it was modified last time around it lost 100cc's Laughing

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James @ Grange Barnet LR



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The 1986 model is pre-P38a (your shape) therefore that would be entirely different again.

I'm guessing that for the cost of the original P38a and then the parts and labour then you wouldn't be too far from the cost of an early and high mileeage RRS?

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I agree with the consensus above.... Don't bother!

If it's a P38 you have, then why not just be happy with it and make it the best P38 you can. Don't try and make it into something it's not. 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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I think it looks rather nice if this is anything to go by http://www.revmonkey.co.uk/ads/range-rover...conversion Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

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1JBS wrote:
I think it looks rather nice if this is anything to go by http://www.revmonkey.co.uk/ads/range-rover...conversion Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter


Big Cry

I rest my case!! Confused Whistle 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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SRE



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Keep it as a P38......if looked after well you will get plenty of enjoyment out of it Thumbs Up In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

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Taximan2011



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Ok so I mistyped mine is a 4.6 hse the one I saw face lifted is a 1996 and here if is on eBay at present I like the front end look just want someone in the know to confirm what year sport those parts would come from please help. eBay item number of the one for sale that I am trying to copy eBay item number eBay Item No. 121004632877

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121004632877;jse...26_rdc%3D1

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I am no expert and it is quite difficult to be sure from the photo’s but the car on ebay seems to have FF headlights and grille, where the hideous rear lights came from is anyone’s guess. 12MY RRS Orkney Grey HSE Lux
12MY FF Santorini Black VSE

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