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Ady 555
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Just out of intrest Alan, is your licence clean Question

Post #354084 Fri Aug 17 2012 8:10pm
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leedsunited



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Ady, we have a sticky explaining how to hard wire a radar detector not a problem, somebody comes on here and asks advice on how to hard wire a jammer and they are vilified, has this placed turned into Mumsnet recently Shocked

Post #354088 Fri Aug 17 2012 8:42pm
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leedsunited wrote:
Let he who is without sin and all that Rolling Eyes

I've had 2 speeding tickets in 20 years. The last one was in 1997. Do I still exceed the posted speed limit? Yes I do. Am I careful in reading the road for cameras etc? Yes I am. Do I rely on my licence for my job? Yes I do. Do I feel the need to install a jammer as well as having an up to date GPS-based camera alert system? No I don't. Will I moan if I get a ticket? No I won't.

We all break the law regarding speed limits and we all accept the risk by doing so.

TBH, your condescending attitude to others in this thread is no better than the similar attitude you ascribe to those who are vocal in their condemnation of jammers.

Some people feel that if you want to speed you should either pay attention or take the points. You seem to think that poking a copper in the eye with a stick is an acceptable way to avoid a ticket. Not sure I can see why you think your position is superior.

If it's that important to the OP to avoid a speeding ticket, then perhaps he should just slow down. If it's not that important then perhaps he should just pay attention and accept the points/fine in the rare event that he gets caught.

Having said all that, if he wants to run a wire from the bumper to the cabin, I would have thought that the exisiting bulkhead penetrations would have provided sufficient space for a couple of thin wires... 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #354096 Fri Aug 17 2012 11:16pm
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leedsunited



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Thanks for your thoughts and not sure where i have been condescending but if I have then it can be no worse than the "Holier than thou" attitude of some in this thread, what the OP is doing is not illegal and IMO did not deserve the response he got from some when all he was asking for was a little advice.

Post #354100 Sat Aug 18 2012 4:13am
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Ady 555
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Thats all i offered Leeds, advice, granted i was shocked that an advanced driver wanted to fit a jammer in the first place Shocked and i only made him aware of the consequences should he get caught using it. Which i'm pretty sure he will know that already.

Post #354106 Sat Aug 18 2012 9:52am
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Ady 555 wrote:
Thats all i offered Leeds, advice, granted i was shocked that an advanced driver wanted to fit a jammer in the first place Shocked and i only made him aware of the consequences should he get caught using it. Which i'm pretty sure he will know that already.


^^ +1 Thumbs Up I'm not perfect by any means but I do my best to set an example. I have to in my job. I also know that any points on my licence would probably end my career.

Post #354113 Sat Aug 18 2012 12:30pm
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leedsunited



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Ady & Gerico , fair comment Thumbs Up

Post #354122 Sat Aug 18 2012 2:38pm
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Now now nannas...its not like you to be so judgmental......There is normally more broad minded and adult (not nanna) discourse on here.

Over here we have plain cars parked in bushes with hidden cameras in them just waiting to send you a fine in the mail. I now have a jammer and a detector. If the guvvy want to resort to covert operations, I will have to as well in order to minimise my risk of a fine. If the guvvy were fair dinkum, I would be too.

Post #354149 Sun Aug 19 2012 8:17am
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not sure where wires go mate but i have the roadangel as my deterant and i fine it great

Post #354154 Sun Aug 19 2012 11:00am
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Gerico - Take the comments you have received here with a pinch of salt.

Its your car and your Licence, you do what ever you want to do. Its not as if you are out mugging old ladies or screwing peoples houses!

Are you "Job"?

Jim Wink

Post #354155 Sun Aug 19 2012 11:10am
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RRSTDV8



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Yes, take it all with a pinch of salt. We're all moaning minnies trying to stop you having fun!

By the way, a solicitor thinks the following:

Quote:
Radar and Laser Jammers

The law on the use of these devices is clearer. Even though the same Road Safety Act (2006) outlaws the use of these items, extensive legislation relating to obstruction of police and perversion of the course of justice exists. These laws are phrased wide enough to mean that any motorist using a “jammer” device could be risking a custodial sentence and a conviction for a serious criminal offence.
http://www.motoring.marymonson.co.uk/radar...ameras.php

No one is saying don't speed - we all do it and we all take the risk of being caught. But all it costs is a few tenners and 3 points (or a 4 hour session being lecturered at if you're "lucky"). But bear in mind that a jammer falls in to the category of "attempting to pervert the course of justice" and can lead to prison time and a criminal record.

By all means take the advice of those moaning about others being moaning minnies but please keep in mind that they won't be the ones in High Court if you get caught. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #354168 Sun Aug 19 2012 6:50pm
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jim4244 wrote:
Gerico - Take the comments you have received here with a pinch of salt.

Its your car and your Licence, you do what ever you want to do. Its not as if you are out mugging old ladies or screwing peoples houses!

Are you "Job"?

Jim Wink


Water off a ducks back.....

Not exactly "job". I'm a driving test examiner. Multi disciplined, assess and check instructors continued ability to do the job as well as examiners as well. Unfortunately, I have had to take peoples careers away from them. All the families cars are well know and if anyone does anything I hear about it very quickly!

Almost weekly I hear a hard luck story from someone who feels hard done by having had thier licence taken away. Sad

Ducks for cover. Shocked Wink

Post #354169 Sun Aug 19 2012 7:07pm
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Ady 555
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A few of my mates are test examiners, a few are driving instructors, and my neighbour is a police pursuit examiner, so i know how important my licence is and not worth the risk of such a device. Whistle

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RRSTDV8 - yes......I'm sure that you will be sent straight to prision if you get caught with a radar jammer! Rolling with laughter

Christ on a stick have you any idae how hard it is to get someone sent down? As for the solicitors blurb you produced - solicitors are the only ones who really make a profit and a career from crime!

The money from speeding fines goes straight to central government and straight into the pockets by way of "John Lewis expenses" for lazt bastard MP's! So I say good luck to anyone who want to fit a detector or jammer!

Jim

Post #354173 Sun Aug 19 2012 8:13pm
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As someone who is involved with the law (albeit construction related, and no, I'm not a lawyer) on a daily basis, I just think both sides of the issue should be covered. Now the OP can make a more informed decision.

Love the rhetoric about how speeding fines go in to MPs' pockets. Nice touch. Total Censored but hey, that's grandstanding for you.

As for your bit about solicitors - the firm I referenced is one of those that get the Daily Mail et al. in a tizz because they work to get people off these sorts of cases. But hey, don't worry about it. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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