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Pelyma wrote:
I'm not a Catholic but I think VA is right. All organisations have bad apples, teachers, police, judges etc etc but you can't condemn them all.
We have it on the news here day in day out and how that the top catholic in the country is trying to cover it up (Cardinal Daniels) it seams to be through root and branch. My partner is Catholic, she was discussing last night on how to un-baptise herself and renounce the catholic faith as she does not want to be part of an organisation that supports paedophilia, it is a growing trend here of people leaving the faith with a big increase in people distancing themselves from the "holy roman empire". On the news this morning they were talking about 16 young people commiting suicide because of what happened to them and the fact that because it was the church no one would belive them. The latest scandal is about the Bishop of Brugge and that he has confessed to the crime, but all he has to do is retire to a convent/monastry and pray for forgiveness to attone of his sins. Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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I'm not an expert in what has been happening with the RC church and the going ons of some of their priests but I really doubt that they support paedophilia as Alicatt states. The actions of the church to resolve this matter may not be to everyones approval but I'm sure they think it's the best way of dealing with it and mistakes happen so they may well have dealt with it wrongly. I seem to remember The Pope has apologised to victims about the actions of some of his priests but done so to the victims personally - now yes there seem to be a large number of victims but surely a personal apology is far better than the media apology that seems to be the call.

These paedophiles have used the church to hide their sick wants, the church is in some way a victim too of their sick perversion because even if they were not priests I think they would have still done what they have done. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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What is done is done but it remains revolting. Some of the perpetrators have not received adequate punishment and have been dealt with apparently leniently. The fact that those who should have been in a position of trust violated that trust so blatantly while pretending to be close to "God" is heinous.

I don't believe in any God, I am sure that's obvious. I do however support anyone's right to believe in what they wish. But don't hide behind virtuosity and feel up little kids and then expect to get away with it.

I also happen to think that 83 year old men dressing up in robes holding up a disc of rice paper to the sky pretending to communicate with something in the clouds is comical....but....if it's harmless it's fine, if very funny to me. Rolling with laughter Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
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you also don't believe in taking Range Rovers off road BKHK.....

How outrageous, such blasphemy...

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While I don't think that it is the RC church in it's self that supports paedos, it is seen here that those that are in charge of the RC church in this country are giving the impression that it is and that is bad. This country is RC through and through and it is shaking the trust that people had in the church here.

BKHK, my thoughts exactly. Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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It's the whole relgious mis-conception issue that is irritating.

In the same way that not all muslim leaders are terrorists, not all catholic preists are paedophiles.

I think the Pope coming to the UK is a good thing and people moaning about the £12m it costs should look at the billions wasted on outrageously ridiculous "things" every year.

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you also don't believe in taking Range Rovers off road BKHK.....

How outrageous, such blasphemy...

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Jonny Fresh wrote:
It's the whole relgious mis-conception issue that is irritating.

In the same way that not all muslim leaders are terrorists, not all catholic preists are paedophiles.

I think the Pope coming to the UK is a good thing and people moaning about the £12m it costs should look at the billions wasted on outrageously ridiculous "things" every year.



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The way it has been dealt with behind closed doors, with little seeing to be done has been what has annoyed me.

I understand that the way it has been dealt with has been goverened by Church law, and this is where the conflict arises due to the Church Laws on defamation.

Needs to be sorted Twisted Evil

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Evil bunch of peado's, somebody please tell me what religion has done for anybody but promote wars, aids over contraception, child abuse mental and physical - i could carry on but dont have the time.

Hawkins is correct god does not exist and why the hell should i foot the bill for a visit from the head of a superstition.

Shoot the f******g lot of them.

Oh and by the way i understand the Censored apologised yesterday well that makes it all ok does it.

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and that's why Leeds will never play in the top flight of football - it would take a miracle to get there! Wink

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leedsunited wrote:


Oh and by the way i understand the Censored apologised yesterday well that makes it all ok does it.
He didn't exactly apologise, but he did say it was a crime rather than a sin that at least is a step in the right direction. It still seems tho if you are a "man of the cloth" then you are above the laws of the land. Sons of dogs come hither and get flesh
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