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Can anyone tell me what is the right size shackle for RRS?
I have been looking at the famous four site and they offer a 19mm and 22mm option. Which one shall I go for?
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What weight capacity do they have? Forget the size look for the load rating. 4 Ton + should be enough. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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VA, the smaller one has 9.75 tons and the larger one 14.25 tons Shocked

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Actually the really important things are the gap across the jaws and the diameter of the pin! If the jaw isn't wide enough then the shackle will not fit over the recovery eye and if the diameter of the pin is bigger than the hole in the recovery eye...... well I thin k you will get the idea! Coko get your tape measure out before buying them. BTW I noticed in Halfords today that they are now selling a red elasticated recovery strop with a closed hook on one end and rated at 4 tonnes which should also be strong enough for most work that owners here will require. You will find it here on their website http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/...yId_165551 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Thanks Tim Thumbs Up
What I am after is only a shackle, to make life easier in case I get stuck Rolling Eyes if that makes sense Laughing

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Tim in Scotland wrote:
they are now selling a red elasticated recovery strop with a closed hook on one end and rated at 4 tonnes ...


If a 'snatch' strap, then a 4T rating is not enough. For snatch straps, the minimum breaking strength should be between 2 to 3 times the car's weight (GVM). Some good info here: http://www.arb.com.au/getting-started/reco...ipment.php

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I wouldn't recommend a snatch rope to anybody, they are lethal in inexperienced hands and pretty dangerous when folks who think they know how to use them try to. I've seen too many bits of tow bar and even rearcross members from Defenders come off with sntach/kinetic ropes to even have one in my kit box of recovery gear. Halfords state it is an elastic towrope to keep the slack part from rubbing and fraying on the road when towing. Sorry maybe I gave the wrong impression calling it a recovery rope, it is a tow rope 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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I think they sell 'Snatch straps' on www.annsummers.co.uk

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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I wouldn't recommend a snatch rope to anybody, they are lethal in inexperienced hands and pretty dangerous when folks who think they know how to use them try to.


They are quite commonly used in Australia Tim, in particular where Sand based driving is concerned. As you say if not set up properly or in the hands of the inexperienced they can be lethal.. or at the very least cause severe damage to either vehicle that is doing the snatching through either a poor set up, using D shackles to join them etc.

That said many of the off road courses teach you how to and when to use the snatch verses rope etc.. how to set them up.. and the Range Rover club actually get their members on the Sand training courses to actually go through a recovery to show the best and most efficient approach. It usually comes down to common sense and applying the grey cells.. Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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They are very commonly used up here in mud Zilch, but a lot of people do not appreciate the amount of energy these things can absorb - they are very useful when used properly and in the right hands and I have been recovered on several occasions by their use but I prefer to use a winchrope and winch and do the job slowly. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Re: Shackles...

Coko wrote:
Can anyone tell me what is the right size shackle for RRS?
I have been looking at the famous four site and they offer a 19mm and 22mm option. Which one shall I go for?
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Handystraps on fleabay also do a good range - i ve just bought a recovery strap from them Thumbs Up


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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I prefer to use a winchrope and winch and do the job slowly.


agree Tim, you should use the best tools for the situation... our local environment calls for both types of recovery, however with ample opportunities for Sand/Dune based driving.. Snatch is usually the only effective method as there is nothing to anchor on, kinetic energy is normally required to prevent the recovering vehicle bogging down as well .. which i have seen with mine and a D3 Laughing

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