Maybe yet another sorry tale of dreadful management (and very poor work from the workers?) from a British Car manufacturer will see us in the same predicament as owners of MGFs and Rover 400s.

No excuse for the reliability problems of the Freelander 1 ( I had one). The RRS is not exactly at the top of the JD Power survey. The X-type was a disaster (I mean, diesel estate Jaguar ... I ask you?). Took too long to replace the S-Type, and the XK. The XJ still looks too old man.

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Look on the bright side, maybe our RRS vehicles will become collectable rarities? It's a real possibility. Hope it doesn't happen. I've been mad for flipping years, absolutely years, over the edge for yonks.

I don't see what the management or workers have to do with this. It's very difficult for any business when the banks suddenly cut your line of credit. Seems more like the govt is being silly with their demands.

By the way, the RRS was second in its (very big) class in the 2009 JD Power survey.

The new jags seem to be good, and the 2010 LRs should do ok.

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If as all reports suggest they are in the sh*t then they really are not in a position to make demands, if the goverment want a say in the running of the company then so be it, i think there are a few people in high positions at LR that should get their heads out of their arses and think of the company and not their own ego's.

The XF is selling quite well and as for the old fashioned XJ, wait for the new model.

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If as all reports suggest they are in the sh*t then they really are not in a position to make demands

I don't pretend to understand all this finance lark, but I'm surprised that Tata aren't stepping up to the mark as JLR's owner and providing some sort of support. They seem to just be standing back and letting it take its course  

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I'm surprised that Tata aren't stepping up to the mark as JLR's owner and providing some sort of support.

Tata have been branching out into many areas of business, including heavy industry, manufacturing, BPO, IT etc, most probably over stretched and like a lot of companies cannot find the credit lines that was around 6 months ago to sustain the level of investment for R&D and future development. The banks have severely reduced lending, that is why the markets are stagnant, no credit, no investment, everyone goes into gazing at the navels  Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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leedsunited wrote:

If as all reports suggest they are in the sh*t then they really are not in a position to make demands

From the reports they are asking for loan guarantees rather than direct government cash injection or support, yet the Govt are requesting a position on the board, a say in the overall company and every decision made which will make it totally impractical to run etc. Looking at how Tony's legion have totally f'd the country, why would you let them loose in any form of industry management..an even bigger recipe for disaster

yea this is what i keep telling people. There not asking for free money or a bail out. They just need to know that loans will be available for them to function (and make there profits). Considering there not 'in the sh*t' this should be an easy goverment decision but instead there trying to take the and get themselves say over a company which will definately lead to stupid biased decisions being made.

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Not a chance - it is negotiation and posturing. And in the case it goes bust, I think there will be a good chance someone else will buy it... if not, maybe I will!! RRS 3.6 TDV8 HSE - getting started, hopefully!

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Not a chance - it is negotiation and posturing. And in the case it goes bust, I think there will be a good chance someone else will buy it... if not, maybe I will!!

You cant Sexy Paul has already got first baggy on it

Tata have already invested hundreds of millions of £'s in Jaguar and Land Rover. Including money to keep several large suppliers afloat during these hard times.

On top of their demands for a seat on the Board etc, etc, our really sympathetic and helpfull Government are also demanding a 15% return on their loan. Even our friend Stormer, the loan shark from the Ace Cafe would be a little more understanding than Gordon and his cronies during these hard times.

I don't recall them putting the same kind of demands to the Banks when they needed a bit of help. Arctic Frost TDV6 SE. Aspen Leather, Cherry Wood, Privacy Glass, PTI, Tow Pack, Mudflaps, Tasmods, a new Fuelflap, a RRSport.co.uk umbrella in the boot & a RRSport.co.uk sticker on the rear glass.
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@ TB - it is ridiculous - last i heard was NR sale would result in a 1Bn loss to taxpayer - NIL return, MASSIVE loss.....

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