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scott7



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java black.

Can anyone tell me if there is more than one shade of java black paint, thanks, Scott.

Post #237543 Mon Sep 21 2009 5:40pm
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islider



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Java Black

Don't think so.

Only two blacks have been available for RRS, Java and then Santorini replaced it.

Post #237546 Mon Sep 21 2009 5:44pm
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scott7



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Thats what i thought, had some paintwork done and in the sun it looks a different colour, not as dark as the original paint, not as shiny either.

Post #237547 Mon Sep 21 2009 5:51pm
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mccalia1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

I could understand if it was the opposite e.g new paintwork was darker and more shiny than the old.

Did you get it done from an indy? or main dealer? Gone: RRS : HSE : TDv6 : 57 : Java Black : Ebony : 20"

Post #237548 Mon Sep 21 2009 6:01pm
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islider



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Java Black

Agree with mcalia, I had some work done and in the new paint the metallic fleck is much more obvious.

Polished the old paint and the metallic came out a bit more.

Has the lacquer been applied correctly? Could explain the new paint looking a bit flat.

No expert on paint mixing, is it possible to follow the recipe for Java and get it wrong but close? Confused

Post #237550 Mon Sep 21 2009 6:29pm
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Leo



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islider wrote:

No expert on paint mixing, is it possible to follow the recipe for Java and get it wrong but close? Confused


Yup, it doesn't matter whether an indy or main dealer, if the painter doesn't take care it's easy to get shades wrong. Not all Java will be exactly the same despite the same paint code, they have to match paint cards to the existing paint.

Post #237551 Mon Sep 21 2009 6:39pm
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scott7



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It wasnt a LR bodyshop, in the sun the new paint looks slightly grey next to the original paint, i don't know much about paint but do know it can be polished to make it look shinier but doubt this will make it look the same colour as the rest of the paint.On a normal dull day you cant really see it, had the car back today but as it was very dull day it wasnt noticeable.

Post #237553 Mon Sep 21 2009 6:52pm
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mccalia1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

My point regarding an indy or main dealer is that you can be 99% sure the main dealer will use the Java Black paint where a indy may use a 'close' looking alternative colour based on cost. That's not saying indys are no good, just a general point and observation based on assumptions.

The laquer/Clear Coat is what gives the paintwork the glossy finish, Islider has a good point about whether it's been applied correctly.

Could you go back to the bodyshop and ask? the longer you leave it the harder it becomes for the them to do something about it. Gone: RRS : HSE : TDv6 : 57 : Java Black : Ebony : 20"

Post #237558 Mon Sep 21 2009 7:39pm
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scott7



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i've got a business relationship with the garage so getting it rectified should not be a problem, just wanted to try and gather some facts incase i need them, thanks for all the replies.

Post #237562 Mon Sep 21 2009 8:13pm
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Frozen of Wiltshire



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

I had my car resprayed in parts - buckingham blue - and had a long chat with the repair shop about it at the time. Like Leo said, they warned me that they'd need to colour match adjacent panels as sun does bleach colour out and even though they will use new paint from land rover parts list it may look different to the 1 year old panel beside it. So they blended the colour in (somehow) and I can't tell the difference between repainted and original panels and am a happy bunny. Might be something similar in your case where the paint is technically the same, but the age of the older black has lightened it slightly and it wasn't blended into adjacent panels properly so you see it quite obviously. Hope this helps. Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE, Buckingham Blue with Ebony Black
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Post #237563 Mon Sep 21 2009 8:23pm
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mccalia1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Good point from Frozen of Wiltshire Thumbs Up Gone: RRS : HSE : TDv6 : 57 : Java Black : Ebony : 20"

Post #237564 Mon Sep 21 2009 8:32pm
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MAW



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Friend of mine works in a bodyshop and sometimes when I have popped in we'll talk about a job he is on. I beleive unless mixed at the same time as the original you will always get differences and this is why they'll 'blow' a panel in (that and weathering). i.e. if they do a door they fade the paint across say the rear door and the front wing as the eye cannot detect the change so easily. If you do just the door the eye is assisted in noticing change by the panel edge lines. As i understand it then the lacquer layer(s) also make a real difference to the actual finish also.....

Post #237591 Tue Sep 22 2009 8:39am
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islider



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Java Black

MAW,

exactly what I had done.

New rear offside door. Part of front door, and rear quarter and bumper blown in. To trick the eye. Hard to notice any difference, especially once the front wing had been polished up.

Post #237613 Tue Sep 22 2009 11:28am
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MAW



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Thumbs Up

Post #237670 Tue Sep 22 2009 8:54pm
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scott7



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Maw, after speaking to the body shop manager yesterday thats pretty much what they did, like you said they blend the new paint in with the original paint so its more difficult to notice, as i mentioned at the start the new paint is not as shiny as the original so im hoping that its just needing the laquer polished up properly.

Post #237689 Wed Sep 23 2009 6:17am
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