So I have had my 2016 RRS now since October and having various faults so far but I still have a love for the car here is my thinking as I have a RAC warranty for 3 years.

Here has is what's gone wrong so far

2 x DPF red warning fault, I have since learnt that this is corrected by driving more revs occasionally than speeds above 40mph when the warning comes on, ill test this and see if it reoccurs again.

1 x Oil dilution, I guess this could be linked to the above but my local garage reset this, for peace of mind I am thinking of buying the sucker plunger and changing 5litres of the oil myself every 6,000 miles or 6 months myself.

1 x access height issue, this is still ongoing but I will get this check and sorted on the RAC warranty.

1 x front bushes prematurely split, the RAC warranty have paid out on this which was around £600 ish I believe, I guess this backs up some plus to this used warranty as they paid out.

As you can see a fair amount of issues since owning, I think I plan keeping until the warranty is up, but tempted to ditch for a petrol as diesels not just LR seem not fit for my mixed driving journeys. What's everyone's thoughts? I love the car and looking around the only car I like just as much is the GLE coupe but 99% are diesels so I would imagine the same issues again there!!

I have similar feelings about my MY16 which I bought nearly 1 year ago - coming up for another service - can't stop smiling each time I drive it....one more year left of the dealer warranty - not sure if this can be further extended. Plan to keep it for another year but struggling to find an alternative to change to...

Prashan MY16, 3.0D HSE Dynamic, Barola Black, TV, Rear Entertainment, Opening Pan Roof, Meridian

This is the same for me its what would be the replacement, I love the SVR but its way out of my price range. The F pace doesn't look as well built or nice and like I said the GLE is still diesel plus the interior on the older ones aren't great.

I might see how the 2018 GLE's pan out and if the petrol versions become popular the new GLE interior is nice but that's late 18 onwards.

I am trying to find work arounds on the RRS for now as ditching early would waste more money!

The only car ive loved as much was the F type Jag I had but it was only 2 seats which become to much of a issue.

Is your “local garage” a Land Rover dealership or an LR Independent Specialist garage? If it is just a general local fixer garage then I would highly recommend a local LR Specialist, often they are Land Rover trained guys and are a huge amount more experienced than most main dealer mechanics who are only any use for decoding the fault finder computer rather than fixing the problem. By the sound of it your car wasn’t purchased from either a dealership or a Land Rover Specialist as if it were approved used there wouldn’t be any RAC 3 year warranty there would be Land Rover’s own 2 year extendable warranty and those issues would have been fixed before putting the car on the forecourt........
If you feel the diesel issue is too big to bear for your style of motoring then instead of looking at a 5.0ltr V8 there was a 3.0ltr Supercharged V6 Petrol that might suit your motoring better. They are quite rare beasts, are not super fast performers and quite hefty fuel burners, but you won’t have oil dilution or DPF issues with them! There was also a very short lived 2.0lt 4 cylinder petrol turbo you might find some examples of on the LR used Car finder. The SDv6 HEV or the current P400e Plug In Hybrid might also suit your needs better than the diesel. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Last edited by Tim in Scotland on Mon Apr 15 2019 10:21am. Edited 1 time in total

gtr_skyline wrote:

one more year left of the dealer warranty - not sure if this can be further extended.
Prashan

The way to avoid the DPF issue is to drive the vehicle "properly". Get out on the open road and drive it. Failing that, at least go out on a motorway/dual carriageway and give it a good run at 70mph (ahem!) to get the exhaust hot.

Driving short runs or spending time sitting in stop-start traffic won't do the DPF any favours as it'll never get hot enough to burn off the soot it collects. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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Your assumptions are correct the car wasn't from LR, the finance deal was better elsewhere. I use a specialist but not a LR one I know that sounds odd but its someone I've used for years and trust and has contacts at most manufactures. Trust is a major thing for me with garages.

As to suitability of the car I agree perhaps not the best suited but as a family we have mostly had diesels for the last 10 years including a evoque but none have had DFP issues but from my understanding a lot of brands have this issue atm due to emission issues and trying to workaround.

I do like the 4 cyl version but ive jumped in already on this and ill have to give it sometime as I don't fancy paying more to escape a finance deal but in a year or so time I guess its a solid option.

The whole new car thing does drive me mad these days years back it seemed most cars newer would last ages until issues but then maybe perhaps I was lucky before?

RRSTDV8 wrote:

The way to avoid the DPF issue is to drive the vehicle "properly". Get out on the open road and drive it. Failing that, at least go out on a motorway/dual carriageway and give it a good run at 70mph (ahem!) to get the exhaust hot.

Driving short runs or spending time sitting in stop-start traffic won't do the DPF any favours as it'll never get hot enough to burn off the soot it collects.

A quick side note I forgot to add is the car has a 5 year service pack so all work apart from the dpf has been done by LR

MrMeg wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

The way to avoid the DPF issue is to drive the vehicle "properly". Get out on the open road and drive it. Failing that, at least go out on a motorway/dual carriageway and give it a good run at 70mph (ahem!) to get the exhaust hot.

Driving short runs or spending time sitting in stop-start traffic won't do the DPF any favours as it'll never get hot enough to burn off the soot it collects.

Yea, this is my plan I was thinking every two weeks giving it a 20-30min blast in sports mode. I was thinking weekly but two weeks might be enough? I do mixed driving but I guess there could be a week where its mostly town 40mph ish driving.

Bit of a update, the compressor is fixed as it went pop which was causing the issue all warranty paid luckily.

I had DPF cleaned again odd it come back with the yellow warning again today after a few weeks?? Is this right I have been driving a little heavier too revs etc??

I could try and add a longer journey weekly although I feel I do this anyways more or less but I assume if it tries to regen and youre not on the journey it will fail.

I read somewhere someone said turn the start stop off as that could help too? Is there any merit in that?

I might talk to LLR but I have a service soon so thinking it could be better to wait Aug ish time?

Yes, turning off the auto stop/start will help - it will avoid the possibility of the DPF being part way through performing a regen when the engine gets stopped. This is one of the causes of oil dilution with unburned fuel that is used to create the heat for the regen 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Thanks Tim, makes sense,

The annoying part is yesterday when the garage was fitting the new compressor, it went yellow again and then the alert went away.

But as it went yellow then cleared and not red this time I would guess the system is working and not faulty. last time it went yellow then red but I have learnt the message on the dash is misleading as states drive over 40mph where reality is its drive high revs the give it a boot as a V6 3.0 40mph is too easy.

I think ill have to monitor this really I cant see what RR can't do about it for now?

Take for a long motorway drive - 70mph for a couple of hours or more to give it a chance to complete a full regen cycle. I never had any DPF problems with either my 2011 Evoque 2.2SD4 or my last RRS SDv6 but due to an unsuccessful software upgrade on my 2n 2.2 Evoque I had lots after it was 9 months old ........... JLR told me it was thecway I was driving the car but I told it cannot be as up to the gearbox software upgrade I had had no issues, afterwards a new DPF Sensor about every 10 days......... they couldn’t roll back the software and in the end bought the car back from me and withdrew the software update for further testing....... none of my cars ever gets used in commuter type driving, my trips to town being outside commuter times and anyway I hav a 16 miles drive in fast A roads to get to town from the village I live in so the car was well warmed up and no stop/start intervention until I got to town. I also never suffered the oil dilution problem in the RRS 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

I’m going to plan a weekly blast on a A road, a little crazy I’ve never had this issue and I’ve owned diesels for the last ten years. The RRS is meant to be a utility vehicle but can’t handle short journeys haha a little crazy but is what it is with emission rulings cribtrolling I guess.