rrsjo wrote:

Finally I am under the impression that the RRS HAS been crash tested and has a 4 star rating for the vehicle and 1 star for pedestrian safety.

Not according to NCAP. The FFRR is 4-star rated and 1-star for pedestrian, but not the RRS as far as I'm aware. The D3 shares these figures, so it would be reasonable to assume the RRS would have similar I suppose. 

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rrsjo wrote:

Finally I am under the impression that the RRS HAS been crash tested and has a 4 star rating for the vehicle and 1 star for pedestrian safety.

Not according to NCAP. The FFRR is 4-star rated and 1-star for pedestrian, but not the RRS as far as I'm aware. The D3 shares these figures, so it would be reasonable to assume the RRS would have similar I suppose.

Whatever.............

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The 2 vertical indents are very similar to the damage that I saw inflicted on 2 Aston Martins by some Liverpool Dockers having "fun" with a large fork lift truck way back in 1976 - one of the Astons appeared to have been hit with the forks lifted above the bodywork but the 2nd had been hit side on with the forks lowered so they pierced to doors and ripped the interior to pieces - both cars had been destined for a wealthy gentleman out in Dubai. Those were the days when the whole UK docks system ground to a halt for a month over the Liverpool wharvies going on strike for "embarrassment money" for handling crated up toilet bowls!!!!
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So I wonder if the damage to the S/C has been done in transit at the docks - which also account for it not appearing on any UK motoring insurance databases - it would have been a "marine" claim for cargo damage. I wouldn't want to touch it with a barge pole........................ more like a crusher is where it should go 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Last edited by Tim in Scotland on Sat Apr 28 2007 7:38am. Edited 1 time in total

Tim
Agreed
There are many signs that this damage happened whilst the vehicle itself was stationary.
eg. There is little sign of any "bounce" damage i.e. hit and drag scratches.
The rims and tyres look remarkably good for having slid sideways at high speed......and so on

It would be interesting to know what happened.

I know it's not conclusive, but the Sport is in park and all the dials are at zero when there could have been a chance of them being damaged in the impact and staying in the position they were at due to the binacle being squashed slightly?

I don't think it's a new car waiting to go off from the docks as it has lamp guards which are dealer fit and it's got quite a lot of road grime on it.

Perhaps someone should enquire, HPI it and post the chassis number on here so that none of us end up buying it in the future!!

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landroverstormer wrote:

I know it's not conclusive, but the Sport is in park and all the dials are at zero when there could have been a chance of them being damaged in the impact and staying in the position they were at due to the binacle being squashed slightly?

I don't think it's a new car waiting to go off from the docks as it has lamp guards which are dealer fit and it's got quite a lot of road grime on it.

Perhaps someone should enquire, HPI it and post the chassis number on here so that none of us end up buying it in the future!!

I'm happy to HPI it is someone wants to PM me the reg number?

rrsjo wrote:

Very Annoyed wrote:

This car is being talked about on D3 and one member quotes-

Quote:

This is very spooky, an identical vehicle was involved in a fatal RTC on the M5 last autumn in which the female driver was killed. I can't imagine that this is the same vehicle as an insurer would mark it as Cat A but then they are saying that it's not recorded. I'll have a check.

I would imagine that the D3 would have performed better for the following reasons:-
1) A very sizeable steel chassis rail running along the side
2) Higher seating position
3) More survival space

It's interesting to see that RRS sport has never been put forward for crash testing but in the few collisions I have been to where one is involved they haven't performed as well as you might think. Certainly not as well as the D3's.

Not nice!

My opinion, and as I always seem to get into trouble for offering my opinion, I repeat, it is only my opinion, I think the D3 owner has no idea what he is talking about.

For one thing he does not seem to be aware that the RRS is built on a D3 shortened chassis. I don't imagine the seats are any lower in the RRS and I can't see that a sloping centre consul is going to restrict the survival place either.

Finally I am under the impression that the RRS HAS been crash tested and has a 4 star rating for the vehicle and 1 star for pedestrian safety.

My biggest concern with this is that some poor Java black supercharged RRS owner is about to get their car stolen and take the identity of this damaged one. There is no way anybody would pay 16k for the damaged car then re build it using genuine parts from LR and there isn't enough salvage RRS's around to do it any cheaper. It would end up costing more than buying one second hand.
Hope i'm wrong, but i'm well aware this is what goes on regularly with high value/unrecorded salvage. 2010 Discovery 4
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woody wrote:

My biggest concern with this is that some poor Java black supercharged RRS owner is about to get their car stolen and take the identity of this damaged one. There is no way anybody would pay 16k for the damaged car then re build it using genuine parts from LR and there isn't enough salvage RRS's around to do it any cheaper. It would end up costing more than buying one second hand.
Hope i'm wrong, but i'm well aware this is what goes on regularly with high value/unrecorded salvage.

Hope you are wrong too. Makes sense though (and I have a java sc )

Suppose there is no law stopping the sale of an unroadworthy/massively damaged vehicles? If there isn't, why do insurers bother with Cat A scraping and not just sell like this guy did. (Maybe the threat of a theft and then cloning etc?) 2022 P440e AB